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if people reckon that a song on someone's ipod is a good enough reason to influence their vote ........ then so be it
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As far as political expediency, the politically expedient thing to do would be to condemn Ludacris completely, but Obama recognizes that the world is not black-and-white. The politically expedient thing to do is to separate the world into black and white, so it's easier to say you're taking a stand on something, as if there are only two sides to take. Obama is being realistic - calling Ludacris out when his lyrics cross the line, but recognizing that he does have talent. It kind of amazes me that you see that as somehow trying to have it both ways, rather than, you know, living in reality. Tell me, if your mom uttered a plainly offensive statement in front of you and your friends, would you condemn her for it? Or would you condemn the statement, understanding that it does not sum her up? |
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I have already conceded the election 'hands down" for Obama months ago > if we are talking about FYM posters' consensus ![]() Quote:
your are correct, too: in a broader conversation, which really is more interesting, and matters more, imho, is how do these things play out with the broader electorate? Are we having two conversations here? one for a FYM consensus - see Diemen and one about the broader electorate - see 2861U2 |
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Wow, McCain is really burying himself with these shit ads...
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I don't have audio on my office computer.
but, I wonder if McCain should slow down a bit. he seemed to be making some headway in the polls. he should not overplay this. But, the Obama people did set themselves up with the fake Presidential Seal ![]() also, going to the "Wailing Wall" unannounced at 5 a. m. and bringing their own Campaign banners in Hebrew with that silly Obama flag was in very poor form, using this holy site for a campaign prop ![]() |
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I wonder how this will play with Joe six-pack?
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sorry, if i derailed the more important Ludacris debate
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Wow, perhaps Obama is reading my posts. ![]() I am getting a little whip lash it looks like he is flipping (as I suggested) and not flopping Quote:
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I pretty much figured this compromise would come up sooner or later, it's pretty much a necessary evil.
This may put Hannity and Beck out of job, what will they bitch about? They spend almost 18 hours a week talking about off shore drilling. ![]() |
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And if by broader electorate you mean the Religious Right. |
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fair enough I should have written that Obama is the best candidate and deserves support is the FYM consensus the broader electorate? that is up for grabs right now is the approximately 10% undecided (we have each candidate getting around 45% + or - a percent or two) I don't believe, for the most part, they are extreme right or extreme left. |
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I think Obama handled this situation very well. The campaign seems to be pretty nimble these days. One thing I really think they should do is kill all those silly O flags. They have the teen-age vote tied up. Those things are silly, most likely the same graphic artist the created the fake Presidential Seal did them. We are not looking for someone to re-brand America. We have a pretty good brand. We just need a new person the to represent the brand. |
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I don't read every single word of every post.
I just read what he wrote about McCain picking up a few points in the polls. And I don't think Obama sharing with the public his personal respect for Ludacris is the best way to win the election. Obama has the youth vote tied up, the black vote tied up. Does he have to prove he is with it? Now McCain is charging hard telling us he is an ABBA fan. I am sure that will erode into Obama's youth and Black support. |
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"Obama spent last week traveling the world meeting foreign leaders, and McCain spent last week at a sausage restaurant and a supermarket. And you know what? The polls are closer than ever. Gallup is at 45-44, McCain has made big leads in swing states, and Obama's numbers have been falling while McCain's have been rising." The broader electorate hasn't bought what they see in Obama yet. Apparently his trip overseas (which I think was far less successful than the media will tell you) did basically nothing as far as shoring up votes among middle America. We all know the polls are going to get tighter as the election nears, but you would think after the vastly different weeks the two candidates had, the polls would be easily in Obama's favor right now. The RCP average is the lowest (in Obama's favor) that I have seen in a long time. One poll this week had McCain up 4, and the latest Gallup is even at 44. |
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![]() I think for the most part the broader electorate isn't paying too much attention to either candidate at this point. Hence why McCain can have a dubious week at home and Obama a successful week abroad and there not be any major swings in the polls. |
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add another .. Plagiarising Bono.. http://www.herald.ie:80/world-news/probono-1444653.html Quote:
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So talking about how Americans are hurting at the pump and how we need to be drilling is "bitching"? Or is it only "bitching" when it's from someone you disagree with?
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