United States of Entropy

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

I thinking we look at the increasing y extreme posts even in here by some posters, who just a few years ago were capable of discussion and disagreement. Now, it's nasty insults and derision and apocalyptic rhetoric if it has the word "Obama" near it.

We're getting a glimpse into the hermetically sealed right wing alternate reality. When the only place you get your news is via conservative websites and talk radio and Fox News, and you spend all your time in a comments column trying to prove who hates Obama more, there's very little you can do. I cannot for the life of me understand the hysteria. I can understand disagreement, but all this pseudo intellectual garbage (which the writer doesn't understand) about "positive rights" -- its nothing to do with anything. It's Eastwood's empty chair. There is nothing the GOP in Washington has to offer other than obstruction. It seems incredibly unfair to blame Obama for not being a good enough leader when he's up against a bunch of zealots.

I understand what a draw that is for those who are drawn to the comfort and clarity of a totalizing narrative in other walks of life, but it's getting ridiculous -- this Congress has done so little.

I agree and I'm noticing this with my conservative family members and the few friends I have that I discuss politics with. Some flood Facebook with anti-Obama articles or turn every conversation into an excuse to rant against Obama.

The problem with their obsessive hatred for Obama is that it makes many turn deaf ears to them, and ignore whatever they have to say. Most of it is worth ignoring (He's a Muslim Kenyan-born anti-American Communist Marxist) but some may be worth listening to, like that Forbes article I posted about the ACA and the illegal taxes involved with it. We as a country can't solve anything if one-half is losing rationale.

Granted, during the Bush years, some liberals were the same way by how they voiced their hatred for Bush and conservatives. But this rhetoric is much worse and more obsessive.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

How's 1981 treating you?

Same as 1787.

“If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.”
― James Madison, The Federalist Papers

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Same as 1787. “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions.” ― James Madison, The Federalist Papers

This is exactly the problem.