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Old 05-20-2002, 08:07 PM   #21
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Melon:

I agree with you on some of those things.

Desire4Bono:

I also agree with you on some of the things you said; in fact, you righted a lot of misconceptions about the founding fathers as well.

That being said, we must not forget that slaver DOES still exist today, but we are asked not to address it out of "cultural respect."

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Old 05-20-2002, 08:13 PM   #22
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So maybe a third of them did, but does that mean all their accomplishments should be disregarded and their words and stories replaced by the minor and insignificant ones of women and minorities, thus revising history in a PC way?
No.

I meant that before we start canonizing the "honorable" people of the past, while knocking what people do nowadays, we need to keep in mind that the people of the past had their selfish, perverse, HUMAN characteristics as well.

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Old 05-20-2002, 11:50 PM   #23
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[B]Lilly, I am well aware of the Abolitionist (anti-slavery) movement.
Oh, I hope you did not take my reply in any condescending tone, because it wasn't meant to be so at all. Just talking about what I had been studying is all.

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Old 05-21-2002, 05:10 PM   #24
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That being said, we must not forget that slavery DOES still exist today, but we are asked not to address it out of "cultural respect."
There is Sudan, of course, which is reprehensible at very minimum.

What about indentured servitude? Now wouldn't this American phenomenon of the last two decades of "forced volunteerism" (i.e., forcing high school students, for instance, to perform x amount of service hours before they can graduate, even if they perform all the academic requirements) fall under that category; and, hence, it is illegal?

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Old 05-22-2002, 02:18 AM   #25
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Okay, you all can feel free to call me Pollyanna if you want. I know about the horrible things that happen in this world; I was telling people about how evil and corrupt the Taliban was, for example, for SEVERAL YEARS before 9/11. But:

--When in human history was so much time, money, and energy devoted to the treatment and cure of horrible diseases?

--When in human history have we had so many ways to communicate with each other?

--When in human history did women have so many rights, although the work of feminism is far from finished?

--When in human history have people lived such long and healthy lives as many people now on Earth have the chance to live?

We have a seemingly infinite amount of work to do, of course. And perhaps I'm wearing rose-colored middle-class American glasses. But just because I think we have work left to do doesn't mean I think we can't do it. I think, a thousand years from now, this time will actually be seen as a Golden Age of human civilization: an age in which new things were invented practically every day. And even though we've invented weapons, I'm sure that if we added up all of the telecommunications, transportation, medical, etc. inventions, they would far outweigh all the new ways we have to kill each other. And there will always be giant boulders, anyway.

Acrobat, I know it seems like the world is a difficult place to live in. But Melon has a good point: we've come a long way. And we have no reason to believe that this, too, will not pass. There simply has to be more good in the world. A lot of that is just trusting in God. But look at how lucky YOU are. That's at least a start.

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U2Bama- Thanks. I'm so glad someone got that.

Martha and Lilly- okay
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Old 05-23-2002, 10:23 PM   #27
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There is Sudan, of course, which is reprehensible at very minimum.

What about indentured servitude? Now wouldn't this American phenomenon of the last two decades of "forced volunteerism" (i.e., forcing high school students, for instance, to perform x amount of service hours before they can graduate, even if they perform all the academic requirements) fall under that category; and, hence, it is illegal?
My view is that what Sudan does is unacceptable at any level, even if it is a "cultural thing."

But I must admit I am not familiar with this forced volunteerism (which negates the word in and of itself) you are talking about; I don't think we have it here in Alabama. And, I agree with you that it sounds illegal as a requirement for graduation.

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