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Old 02-02-2017, 06:54 PM   #141
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Rolling back penalties for not having health insurance which was part of Obamacare.

Leaving policies in place put in by Obama to protect the LGBT community
Appointing GENERAL MATHIS to Sec of Defense.

An order instructing agencies that whenever they introduce a regulation, they must first abolish two others. (There are a lot of regulations which are ill thought and idiotic)

An order to lengthen the ban on administration officials working as lobbyists. There is now a 5 year-ban on officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government, and a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

He needs to stop being so thin skinned I agree with you
1) Fair enough, though the penalties exist for any other kind of no-brainer insurance. Otherwise, people will just continue to go around uninsured and when there's something life-threatening that comes up, it'll be on them, now, I guess. Too bad we don't have a better system.

2) So you mean not doing anything? Don't give him credit for something Obama did, come on.

3) I'd be OK with this if he hadn't broken the rules in order to do it. Or had the rules broken for him, but so much for those checks and balances, right?

3) Don't you think this is a little simple? Like...this is one of those things that sounds obvious on paper, but then it's put into action and suddenly you realize that, hey, these regulations exist for a reason and now I just have to delete two of them? EVERY TIME?

4) We're in agreement on this one. But I want to go further and get rid of the lobbying altogether. Publically funded elections are what this country needs. Not a guy who shoots off his mouth when he feels like it.

5) He needs to grow up is more like it. Still can't believe a grown child is now the president. Absurd.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:54 PM   #142
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They have funds in place for border security as well as other funding as part of the federal budget....Is the wall not part of border security?
Again, where are you getting the idea that we're sitting on tens of billions of dollars....Now it just sounds like you're assuming something you want to be true.
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Do you have any idea how much the wall will take to build?!
Do you?

BVS I've said repeatedly I think the wall is the wrong approach. I didn't vote for Trump based on the wall. I still think its not the best approach and my view is below.

Strengthen border security.
Hire more BPA. Train them and stand behind them 100%
Strictly enforce the laws in place now.
Put money into newer technology to enforce the laws.
Stop being beholden to MEXICO.....The illegal problem is just as much theirs as it is ours.....Yet we are the ones forced to deal with it while the Mexican govt washes their hands of it...
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Do you?

BVS I've said repeatedly I think the wall is the wrong approach. I didn't vote for Trump based on the wall. I still think its not the best approach and my view is below.

Strengthen border security.
Hire more BPA. Train them and stand behind them 100%
Strictly enforce the laws in place now.
Put money into newer technology to enforce the laws.
Stop being beholden to MEXICO.....The illegal problem is just as much theirs as it is ours.....Yet we are the ones forced to deal with it while the Mexican govt washes their hands of it...
Meanwhile, Trump is still talking about the wall.

That's not what you voted for when you voted for trump, so why did you vote for Trump when you knew that was his plan? He never suggested anything other than a wall.
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BVS I've said repeatedly I think the wall is the wrong approach. I didn't vote for Trump based on the wall. I still think its not the best approach and my view is below.



Strengthen border security.

Hire more BPA. Train them and stand behind them 100%

Strictly enforce the laws in place now.

Put money into newer technology to enforce the laws.

Stop being beholden to MEXICO.....The illegal problem is just as much theirs as it is ours.....Yet we are the ones forced to deal with it while the Mexican govt washes their hands of it...


I can agree with you on some of these points. You're right, the wall is a disastrous idea.
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1) Fair enough, though the penalties exist for any other kind of no-brainer insurance. Otherwise, people will just continue to go around uninsured and when there's something life-threatening that comes up, it'll be on them, now, I guess. Too bad we don't have a better system.

2) So you mean not doing anything? Don't give him credit for something Obama did, come on. He could have reversed it......Remember that and I am sure some feel he should and they are idiots.

3) I'd be OK with this if he hadn't broken the rules in order to do it. Or had the rules broken for him, but so much for those checks and balances, right?
Did you forget the Republicans are simply using the tools the Democrats put in place when they were in power but now its taboo?

3) Don't you think this is a little simple? Like...this is one of those things that sounds obvious on paper, but then it's put into action and suddenly you realize that, hey, these regulations exist for a reason and now I just have to delete two of them? EVERY TIME?
If you knew anything about how the ATF operates you would sing a different tune believe me.

4) We're in agreement on this one. But I want to go further and get rid of the lobbying altogether. Publically funded elections are what this country needs. Not a guy who shoots off his mouth when he feels like it.
LOL politicians shooting off at the mouth is part of election history.....That is nothing new.....But I know what you mean.

5) He needs to grow up is more like it. Still can't believe a grown child is now the president. Absurd.
See we agree on some things. Not all but some.
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Meanwhile, Trump is still talking about the wall.

That's not what you voted for when you voted for trump, so why did you vote for Trump when you knew that was his plan? He never suggested anything other than a wall.
Candidates promise the moon and free ice cream for everyone. It doesn't mean they can deliver on it.

If I was in favor of the wall I would use technology in place already and build around that. Why put new stuff in when you have things already in place? Just strengthen what is there.
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Candidates promise the moon and free ice cream for everyone. It doesn't mean they can deliver on it.

If I was in favor of the wall I would use technology in place already and build around that. Why put new stuff in when you have things already in place? Just strengthen what is there.
He's certainly damn intent on trying.
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He's certainly damn intent on trying.
Well whether you like him or not that is one step above a lot of politicians.
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Well whether you like him or not that is one step above a lot of politicians.
Trying to build a money pit is something I should applaud?
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Trying to build a money pit is something I should applaud?
No just pointing out he is keeping his promises. Most politicians don't. Doesn't make them all right but he is keeping them
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The left has to stop being petulant little children and realize we are in this together....
Oh here we go with the kumbaya.

NO.

WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are. Not the grabbed pussies (you can do anything you want to them if you're famous), not the Mexicans (drug dealers, criminals, rapists and bad hombres), not the disabled (with their flailing arms), not the overweight women (get on a treadmill and be publicly humiliated), not the Jews (apparently he thinks Shylock is real as he wants only men wearing yarmulkes counting his money), the Muslims (they want to kill us all), not the refugees (they also want to kill us), etc.

So it's really rich coming from a person in a position of privilege to tell the rest of us who are wearing bulls-eyes to COME TOGETHER instead of telling that freak show that you voted in to be a uniter and a president to all instead of the vulgarian that he is.

Sorry, we won't forget what you voted for and what you are tacitly approving.
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No just pointing out he is keeping his promises. Most politicians don't. Doesn't make them all right but he is keeping them
So I'm to applaud him for keeping a promise that could financial bankrupt the country. Good to know.

Oh I'm also supposed to applaud him for not treating the LGBT community like second-class citizens, too. Awesome.

I told the rest of you what was going to come of believing that EO leak. Now Trump's a damn hero. SMH.
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist? Funny I seem to be in the minority here but I don't see skin color. We are all good people discussing a subject.....You seem to be the one bringing race into it.

Since we are on a music board I cant help but think of another song from a band I love and the lyrics go quite well here.

I am no better and neither are you
We are the same whatever we do
You love me you hate me you know me and then
You can't figure out the bag I'm in
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Oh my God.


Oh...wait....are you serious?
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WE are not in it together. You white, straight, Christian men maybe are.

So in the first sentence of your post you are already being racist? Funny I seem to be in the minority here but I don't see skin color. We are all good people discussing a subject.....You seem to be the one bringing race into it.
Shocking that a white man doesn't see colour. Also shocking that you can't put yourself in the shoes of a minority.

And for heaven's sake if you're going to throw baseless accusations at me, at least get it right. Those were the 3rd and 4th sentences of my post.
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Ah, he edited. Now it's even better. "I don't see color". .

Now I'm guessing bloodysunday is one of those people that tells POC, women, LGBT peoples, etc how they should feel about things too, huh? Cause he doesn't see color .
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Ashley, thanks for the comment on the Prayer Breakfast. I have to admit I've never paid attention to this event so I am not familiar with it, though I am able to gather through common sense that his speech was ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that he has a grieving family of a Navy SEAL - wouldn't it be appropriate to begin by offering prayer for this man and his family and friends instead of boasting about his ratings vs. Arnold's? It baffles the mind. Worse yet are the allegedly religious people who live in a state of delusion that this man has any spirituality within him.

I still don't know why this event exists in the sense that it strikes me as not particularly inclusive but rather something for Christians, which I guess makes sense historically but these days? Or is it actually an interfaith sort of event?
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I love it when new conservative posters become active on FYM, it feels like such a major FYM event until you realise their beliefs are essentially identical to other FYM conservatives before them.
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Shocking that a white man doesn't see colour. Also shocking that you can't put yourself in the shoes of a minority.

And for heaven's sake if you're going to throw baseless accusations at me, at least get it right. Those were the 3rd and 4th sentences of my post.
Oh dear so its not racism if someone of another color says it to a white person?
To me you are the one coming across as racist....Oh I'm white I guess I should check my privilege next?

And actually Bono I respect everyone's opinions but I won't keep mine to myself because one side doesn't like it. That is what a debate is......It's two sided.

Oh and a little about myself.
I come from a family of Polish & Irish immigrants. Both grandparents fought in WW2. My grandfather on my mothers side spent time in both India & Africa as a teacher. My grandmother was in the diplomat core so on my moms side they are more a mixture of conservative & liberal. My dad was born here and an Army vet. He was an old school Dem who loved Harry Truman. I am bringing these points up so you know a little about the person you are judging.

Yes if you have to bring race into it I am a white boy and I'm not ashamed of it...Why should I be? Does that make me less of a person or do my views mean less because I'm not of a different color?

I believe everyone has a right to be heard. Its what makes this country what it needs to be. We wouldn't be the melting pot we are today if we didn't. Every culture brings something to the table but it's very close minded to think one persons voice matters more over another.
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