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Old 01-28-2017, 10:10 PM   #501
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A lot of this is meant to overwhelm and distract news cycles.

It's been an intense 24 hours, and tonight I was trying to think of the other executive orders Trump signed this week. I couldn't, for the life of me, remember any, and these orders were just signed 2-3 days ago!

Meanwhile, Steven Bannon replaces the head of the US military at the National Security Council.
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In a separate presidential memo, Trump reorganized the National Security Council to, along with other changes, give Bannon a regular seat on the principals committee — the meetings of the most senior national security officials, including the secretaries of defense and state.

That memo also states that the director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will sit on the principals committee only when the issues to be discussed pertain to their “responsibilities and expertise.” In the previous two administrations, both were included as regular attendees.
While we were all distracted, this asshole replaced the director of national intelligence and the head of the joint chiefs with the Klansman from brietbart.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:23 PM   #503
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PS. I'll be protesting at LAX tomorrow. Looks like this might be a weekly thing until President Tiny Hands is deposed.
I saw you on the RSVP . How are you going to get there? Do you think it'll be heavy traffic? I may just take the Flyaway shuttle that I normally take, if it's just business as usual. Not 100% gauged on how big this protest is.
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Why does this feel like phase 0 of war...?
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Most of the country falls on the liberal side of the issues.

Universal healthcare
Better gun laws
Gay marriage
Stricter regulations on Wall Street
Higher min wage

Yet these liberal ideas lost. Why? Is it really ONLY because rural America came out in select districts?

Or was it the Dems inability to unite behind Clinton (thanks to the screw job on Bernie....bullshit)?

The GOP have shown they will unite behind a mad man to get into power.

The Dems lost the plot


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I saw you on the RSVP . How are you going to get there? Do you think it'll be heavy traffic? I may just take the Flyaway shuttle that I normally take, if it's just business as usual. Not 100% gauged on how big this protest is.

Heading to the Green Line and taking the train in from there. Not sure how bad the crowds will be. But the train can't be worse than last weekend.


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Heading to the Green Line and taking the train in from there. Not sure how bad the crowds will be. But the train can't be worse than last weekend.


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That is a looooooong ride for me....Hmmm, I'll think about it.
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Old 01-29-2017, 12:34 AM   #508
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Well, today was certainly something. Encouraging, but the first of many steps. Resist.

Donated to the ACLU, they are gonna be on the front lines for what will be a looooong battle.
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Yep. I hope they continue to fight and protest this and try and fix some of this insanity.

I don't know if there's any protests going on in my area, but you'd better believe I'll be calling and writing letters tomorrow. Some of my representatives, I can pretty much accurately guess they'll be stupid enough to support Trump on this, but I'm still going to make a fuss at them anyway.

And like Cori said, anyone who doesn't stand up to this, they're not getting my vote in 2018 either. Now is not the time to be a coward.

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Friday night, DHS arrived at the legal interpretation that the executive order restrictions applying to seven countries -- Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Sudan and Yemen -- did not apply to people who with lawful permanent residence, generally referred to as green card holders.

The White House overruled that guidance overnight, according to officials familiar with the rollout. That order came from the President's inner circle, led by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. Their decision held that, on a case by case basis, DHS could allow green card holders to enter the US.
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Something appears to be going on at LAX... CBP agents refusing to go by judge's order.
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To those of you in the US who are actively protesting this hatred, you have my respect and gratitude.
A fair few times some of you have mentioned how embarrassed you are to be American.
No way. From the outside looking in I see one tyrant surrounded by hungry vultures. Meanwhile the bulk of the COUNTRY says 'no fucking way' and fights.
America is looking as beautiful to me today as it ever has.
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To those of you in the US who are actively protesting this hatred, you have my respect and gratitude.
A fair few times some of you have mentioned how embarrassed you are to be American.
No way. From the outside looking in I see one tyrant surrounded by hungry vultures. Meanwhile the bulk of the COUNTRY says 'no fucking way' and fights.
America is looking as beautiful to me today as it ever has.
This means a lot. I hope the rest of the world continues to remember that, too. Trump lost the popular vote for good reason. God willing our protests here will prove effective in all sorts of ways.
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This all occured hours after the stay had been put in place.
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This all occured hours after the stay had been put in place.
Bannon and Miller overruled legal guidance on green card holders...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/28/po...ban/index.html

We all know what this means when the government trys to overrule law. It can't be overstated how absolutely fucked America is now.
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Is this real?!

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...Lf2nWnTiVP.mp4
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What a sickening piece of shit.

Never considered myself a protestor but if the same shit started happening here I'd protest. Gotta resist.
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What are orgeogeopa and bob saget and deep and iron horse's thoughts on this. Still think it's all just a laugh?

Or are you all okay with the fact that your president is banning entire countries from entering when the percentage who are terrorists are infinitesimally small?

How is this going to stop Dylann Roof?

You all want to make America great again. And how is that defined? By going against that giant statue in New York City? By banning innocent people seeking a place to sleep at night?

Disgusting.
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As a side note I think when it comes to refugees you do need a system in place, not just to make sure they aren't linked to ISIS, but to integrate them successfully, something other countries like Germany and France have struggled with. They accepted thousands of them and didn't know how to handle it. And yes, some ISIS supporters got in, a small number. You have people who don't speak the language, will struggle to find work & money, have different beliefs, etc suddenly thrown into a whole other world so to speak. I understand you can't just plop them down, but our politicians should be thinking up a way to make it work rather than arguing all the time. Its sort of like how we have issues taking care of some of our own veterans and homeless. Nothing changes because they don't work it out.
I don't think that either country lacked the knowledge how to handle it.
The situation in Calais was not because France was inept, but because the people wanted to get to the UK, which wasn't possible.
Germany for the most part managed the refugee influx rather well. I saw first hand where it wasn't handled well because my offices are right where the state's office for refugees is located, which was indeed quite a catastrophe. But that's a complex, messy issue which is structurally and politically situated in the city of Berlin.
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I don't know how often I read that the "checks and balances" are keeping politics and the President in line.
What are Trump and his imbeciles doing right to so seamlessly circumvent all that?

I think this episode, and reactions such as the ones by some CBP officials, show well how fragile all our democracies really are. On the upside, you have a lot of protests, and you have some who don't just follow orders (such as the University of Michigan which refuses to "investigate" their own international students). But they are outdone by the servants who follow the orders and do whatever is being asked of them.
Decisions like this require all civil (servant) disobedience there can be. Sadly, too many are all too happy to comply.
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