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Old 01-09-2017, 04:38 PM   #141
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Oh, for fuck's sake, are you kidding me with this?

*Sighs, puts head in hands*

Re: Donald Trump's tweets about Meryl Streep, aside from the fact that he, y'know, is totally lying in regards to the reporter, my favorite thing is hearing Trump supporters complain about a Hollywood celebrity spouting their political views.

This from the same group of people who let a reality TV star spout his political views and put him in the White House.

Yeah.

Seriously, Trump supporters, good job . Really. Hope you're proud of yourselves.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:05 PM   #142
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Every 'Holier Than Thou' outburst from the Left brings us one day closer to victory.

1394 days until reelection.

I have one problem with Trump's tweet. Meryl Streep is not overrated. She could play Batman and Joker in the same movie to wide acclaim. This is how I would have started.

"Meryl, that's rich, coming from the actress who came close singlehandedly ruining Mamma Mia"


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So, nothing from you on how pathetic it is that the man who's about to becom president decides the best use of his time right now is to complain that an actress said something "mean" about him, instead of, y'know, focusing on preparing for his rather important job?

Okay, then.
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Every 'Holier Than Thou' outburst from the Left brings us one day closer to victory.


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I keep reading this, but exactly what part was holier than thou or elitism?




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Every 'Holier Than Thou' outburst from the Left brings us one day closer to victory.
"Holier than thou" to have a moral objection to mocking disabled people and then lying about it?

Guilty as charged, I guess.
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Never mocked a disabled reported. Huge media lie. Used the same spastic motions to describe Ted Cruz and a General at the same time in the campaign.

Media was running cover for that fact that the reporter reneged on a report he had done about Muslims celebrating 9/11

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Imagine the Washington Post’s surprise when Trump uncovered one of the Washington Post’s own reporters, Serge Kovaleski, supporting the claim in an article Kovaleski wrote for them on September 18, 2001. Kovaleski wrote:


In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.

Very embarrassing for the media, especially the Washington Post which had done such a great job scouring news reports after 9/11 that they missed their very own story on the subject. It was in this state of embarrassment that the media was desperate to distract from the matter. The Washington Post ended up finding Kovaleski, now writing for the New York Times, so he could do damage control. Kovaleski predictably tried to backtrack from his 2001 account saying he didn’t remember the details:


“I certainly do not remember anyone saying that thousands or even hundreds of people were celebrating,” said Serge Kovaleski, one of the reporters. “That was not the case, as best as I can remember.”

Enter Donald Trump’s rally in South Carolina soon thereafter. During the rally Trump pointed all of this out and paraphrased Kovaleski’s backtracking as he impersonated a groveling reporter changing his story under pressure. While he did this, Trump moved his hands around quickly, acting flustered.

Soon thereafter, the media revealed still photos of Kovaleski with his right hand in a permanently flexed position downward announcing that he was disabled. The media then shifted from trying to defend their oversight of the 9/11 Post article and instead, with disapproving shocked outrage, accused Trump of mocking a reporter’s disability. Some liberals went even further and freeze-framed a millisecond of the Trump video at the exact moment when his hand went into a flexed posture. Then they dishonestly put this screen capture side by side with a picture of Kovaleski’s flexed hand. Thus, you saw the following photo spread like wildfire over social media with commentary condescendingly and horrifyingly excoriating trump as a monster:


In conclusion the Media did a great job using the disability of a reporter to forward the narrative that Trump was insensitive to the disabled
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Never mocked a disabled reported. Huge media lie. Used the same spastic motions to describe Ted Cruz and a General at the same time in the campaign.



Media was running cover for that fact that the reporter reneged on a report he had done about Muslims celebrating 9/11









In conclusion the Media did a great job using the disability of a reporter to forward the narrative that Trump was insensitive to the disabled

Are you for real, man?

Like, are you that deep in that you are honestly going to say he wasn't mocking the guy because of his impaired motor skills?

What could be more clear?
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I also like how apparently only the left can be outraged over this. So what does that say about the right? They're cool with this kind of behavior, then?
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Never mocked a disabled reported. Huge media lie. Used the same spastic motions to describe Ted Cruz and a General at the same time in the campaign.



Media was running cover for that fact that the reporter reneged on a report he had done about Muslims celebrating 9/11









In conclusion the Media did a great job using the disability of a reporter to forward the narrative that Trump was insensitive to the disabled

Nice source Catholics4trump?

Where's the video of the other times?


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I keep reading this, but exactly what part was holier than thou or elitism?




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She doubled down on Hillary's 'deplorable' strategy. Even more tone-deaf. Without us, you'd be stuck watching football and Mixed Martial Arts, which is not the Arts.

Hey, Meryl, most of the electorate (Men, Women, African-Americans, Hispanics, etc) love Football. Their lives revolve around team loyalty. Great job representing leftist Hollywood by bashing the true cultural-sport fabric that unites so many Americans.

Meryl Streep has probably never had a bad word spoken to her in 30 years. She is universally praised. She came down from her self-imagined Ivory Tower and made what she thought was a Streepian declaration, that would as always be widely accepted.
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What in the world are you babbling on about?

Also, Hollywood is not the only place where leftists exist.

(And saying she "came down from an ivory tower" while supporting a rich reality TV star is kind of hilarious.)
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Nice source Catholics4trump?

Where's the video of the other times?


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Here you go. Same motion.

Ted Cruz flailing arms.

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She doubled down on Hillary's 'deplorable' strategy. Even more tone-deaf. Without us, you'd be stuck watching football and Mixed Martial Arts, which is not the Arts.



Hey, Meryl, most of the electorate (Men, Women, African-Americans, Hispanics, etc) love Football. Their lives revolve around team loyalty. Great job representing leftist Hollywood by bashing the true cultural-sport fabric that unites so many Americans.



Meryl Streep has probably never had a bad word spoken to her in 30 years. She is universally praised. She came down from her self-imagined Ivory Tower and made what she thought was a Streepian declaration, that would as always be widely accepted.

So poking fun at football is calling you deplorables?! That's all you got?




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Um, actually Pierce Brosnan was the one who almost single-handedly ruined Mamma Mia.

#ABBAsplaining

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What in the world are you babbling on about?

Also, Hollywood is not the only place where leftists exist.

(And saying she "came down from an ivory tower" while supporting a rich reality TV star is kind of hilarious.)

You understand that millions of people in the US love the NFL? The Super Bowl is the most watched program every year in the World?

Her statement denigrated people that watch Football.

This attitude, permeated by Hollywood, Academia, New York media intelligentsia will not help you win back PA, OH, MI, IA, WI (ironic that these are places where football is a way of life, not just something to watch on the weekend)

The "Ivory Tower" metaphor is used when somebody is completely out of touch with the 'peasant class'. Meryl Streep's performance last night proved she had no idea what goes on in middle America. Trump is a rich reality star that understood Middle America. He did not have the condescending Ivory Tower attitude.

I fully understand I will never convert any of you into a Trump supporter. From a purely political science analysis, I'm putting out a warning that the Democratic party could be in trouble if it does not find a moderating messenger before the midterm elections. While you may view Streep's stand as a noble endeavor, it was potentially toxic to the liberal brand in its execution.

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The future does not belong to those who would slander ABBA.

Yeah Brosnan was rough.
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Yes, I agree with you that it's fair to roll your eyes at her comments about football and blah blah blah.

That doesn't mean Donald Trump wasn't very obviously mocking that reporter.
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Here you go. Same motion.



Ted Cruz flailing arms.




At the very least it's juvenile and tone deaf, no grown man should conduct themselves this way.


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At the very least it's juvenile and tone deaf, no grown man should conduct themselves this way.


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"Tone Deaf" is our new FYM buzzword open to be used by everybody.

Let's hope SOE isn't Tone Deaf
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You understand that millions of people in the US love the NFL? The Super Bowl is the most watched program every year in the World?

Her statement denigrated people that watch Football.

This attitude, permeated by Hollywood, Academia, New York media intelligentsia will not help you win back PA, OH, MI, IA, WI (ironic that these are places where football is a way of life, not just something to watch on the weekend)
Well, I live in Iowa and I couldn't care less about football. Yes, I'm well aware it's very popular here, but I don't see how Meryl's speech was somehow insulting people who like football. My mom and sister like football, and they would've agreed with her statements. As would've my dad, and many other people I know who like football. So...

And I'm not bothered by the "Hollywood/academia/New York media" commentary, either. I really wish people would quit acting like all of us here in middle America will automatically have a knee-jerk reaction to the "liberal elite", or the people on the coasts, and must naturally disagree with or dismiss anything they have to say because "ooh, liberal commentary". Some people will, yes, but again, you DO know there are liberals who live here, too, right? And not just in the big cities, either.

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The "Ivory Tower" metaphor is used when somebody is completely out of touch with the 'peasant class'. Meryl Streep's performance last night proved she had no idea what goes on in middle America. Trump is a rich reality star that understood Middle America. He did not have the condescending Ivory Tower attitude.
BS. Complete and total BS. Trump wouldn't have the first clue what people like my family go through. Not a single clue at all. I'm not saying Meryl Streep would know any better, either, but for the love of all that is good, quit acting like Trump totally gets us working class people. He's more obsessed with whining about people being mean to him on Twitter than he is focusing on preparing for his job and actually doing anything about the things he claimed he said he'd do for the working class, he was born into money, he's never had to want for anything in his life.

Seriously, I hope to god you're just pulling our legs by saying this stuff, because there is no way you can possibly say any of that with a straight face and actually mean it.
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Calling it a buzzword doesn't make it untrue.

Using those arm motions while discussing someone with a motor disabiity; the results are easily predictable.

And leading into it with, "You gotta see this guy..." My interpretation is deliberate mocking.
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