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Old 12-08-2016, 09:15 AM   #321
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It would appear, and I may be wrong here, but apparently if you elect a grossly unqualified con-man for President, you get a grossly unqualified con-man as President.

Who knew?

Wait, what?! Is that how this works?

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Old 12-08-2016, 09:31 AM   #322
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Wait, what?! Is that how this works?

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The great hope of the forgotten industrial worker of middle America just took a giant shit all over the very workers who put him in office... and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

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If not, you probably shouldn't be at the grown ups table.
BVS, you're really not helping the tone of this thread with comments like that.
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What a shitshow...

My prediction; his thin skin gets him impeached quicker than any president in history.


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Republicans control both the House and the Senate. Do you really think they would impeach him and risk alienating his base?
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I just love the example he's setting for everyone in all aspects of personal/professional life. The constant bickering on twitter, his penchant for bullying at rallies.

Feel like he's ushered in the age of the Asshole.
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Austin chose the worst of all worlds: middling density, no good mass transit, and inadequate freeways.
yes, i don't live downtown, but i do live in actual austin (not round rock or something) and there's only one bus that comes through where i am. one. it'd be a pain to try to go downtown via mass transit if i wanted to avoid the traffic but also not have to worry about having to stay sober.

i-35 is crazy. it has the same amount of lanes as any of the interstates do in memphis. but the traffic here is heavier since there's way more people, of course. add in how much traffic i-35 as a whole gets and i just don't understand why when you're headed downtown, it's just four lanes in each direction. i'm glad the only time i have to go there is by choice, no commuting downtown.

i do love austin though. there's actually shit to do here, a nice change from the other cities i've lived in.
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Republicans control both the House and the Senate. Do you really think they would impeach him and risk alienating his base?
Right. He'll never get through his term without impeachment, just like he would never make it past the primary, just like he would never get elected.
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What a shitshow...

My prediction; his thin skin gets him impeached quicker than any president in history.


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I sincerely hope so! My wish is that he gets impeached, before he takes office.
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I sincerely hope so! My wish is that he gets impeached, before he takes office.

You can't get impeached before you're actually in office.
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You can't get impeached before you're actually in office.
I realized that, right after I posted it. Oh well...it was a wish.
How about he gets impeached on his first day as president?
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Republicans control both the House and the Senate. Do you really think they would impeach him and risk alienating his base?
when Trump can't deliver on his campaign promises... when no wall gets built, and (gasp!) manufacturing jobs don't return to the rust belt (because it's 2016/2017, duh)... Trump's base will turn on him.

he rallied them around a return to the good ol' days, and when he doesn't deliver, he'll just be another asshole.

once the base falters, the republican party will be so eager to get rid of him your head will spin. all of a sudden a lot of people who are quiet and/or kissing his ass since he won will be all "well i never thought he should be president, anyways." Pence will be elevated to the highest office, which is frightening in it's own right but at least he's not certifiably nuts like this guy. and then the big question will be what happens in 2020.


the reaction from carrier's union shows how quickly the same people who voted for him can and will turn on him if he doesn't deliver.
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Pence is an even worse scenario because he actually understands the process of making some of these socially-regressive talking points happen.
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There is no way he gets impeached by the Republicans until after the 2018 midterms. I just really don't see it happening, no matter how egregious his behavior. His voters are going to be willing to give him the 4 years as appalling as it seems, so the GOP isn't going to want to rock the boat in 2018. Now when the inevitable failure becomes obvious and the Republican Senate is on the line and the presidency is on the line and the majority of Republican governorships are on the line in 2020, the rats will abandon ship real quick. If there is an interest rate hike (quite likely given who will be at the Fed), then that sets up for an inevitable 2019 recession, which would even further set the stage for 2020.

It isn't as if there aren't plenty of Republicans plotting how to be the next nominee of the party. The question is when the knives will come out.
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i know we've moved on to greater horrors, but let's not let this lie stand:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...83fb5#comments
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Republicans control both the House and the Senate. Do you really think they would impeach him and risk alienating his base?

I'm imagining a scenario where they really had no choice; him going After another country or someone in the press because his feelings were hurt.

Trump is obviously oblivious to the limitations of his power, and he's already drunk on that power, that in addition with his ultra thin skin is a pretty lethal concoction.

This in addition with what Irvine said, once he can't fulfill a single promise his minions will eventually wake up.


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There is no way he gets impeached by the Republicans until after the 2018 midterms. I just really don't see it happening, no matter how egregious his behavior. His voters are going to be willing to give him the 4 years as appalling as it seems, so the GOP isn't going to want to rock the boat in 2018. Now when the inevitable failure becomes obvious and the Republican Senate is on the line and the presidency is on the line and the majority of Republican governorships are on the line in 2020, the rats will abandon ship real quick. If there is an interest rate hike (quite likely given who will be at the Fed), then that sets up for an inevitable 2019 recession, which would even further set the stage for 2020.

It isn't as if there aren't plenty of Republicans plotting how to be the next nominee of the party. The question is when the knives will come out.
I think it depends on how quickly he becomes an unmitigated disaster, and how quickly he turns on the rust belt worker that put him over the top.

When union leaders are already bashing him and he hasn't even taken office yet, that shows you how quickly things could go sour.

We may disagree on how the rust belt worker can get back into our economy in a positive way, but there is no doubt that there are a lot of desperate people out there, and people who feel they've been ignored by the political powers that be.

That's the vacuum that allowed Trump's rise to power and ultimate election. They ignored the obvious reasons why this man should never be allowed in the White House even as a guest on a tour largely because he was the one who continuously spoke to them.

If he turns on them, doesn't follow through on his promises, and becomes just another politician... his supporters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not the fairweather douches who only voted for him because he had an (R) in front of his name... the true Trump loyalists.

Carrier was a big campaign promise for him, and the person elected to represent the union who helped put him in office based on these promises has already called him a liar.

Things could go south for him quick.
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The weirdest part if all of this to me is how much attention Indiana is randomly getting, now.
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I think it depends on how quickly he becomes an unmitigated disaster, and how quickly he turns on the rust belt worker that put him over the top.

When union leaders are already bashing him and he hasn't even taken office yet, that shows you how quickly things could go sour.

We may disagree on how the rust belt worker can get back into our economy in a positive way, but there is no doubt that there are a lot of desperate people out there, and people who feel they've been ignored by the political powers that be.

That's the vacuum that allowed Trump's rise to power and ultimate election. They ignored the obvious reasons why this man should never be allowed in the White House even as a guest on a tour largely because he was the one who continuously spoke to them.

If he turns on them, doesn't follow through on his promises, and becomes just another politician... his supporters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not the fairweather douches who only voted for him because he had an (R) in front of his name... the true Trump loyalists.

Carrier was a big campaign promise for him, and the person elected to represent the union who helped put him in office based on these promises has already called him a liar.

Things could go south for him quick.

Many will on him pretty quickly, without the screaming of 'Benghazi emails on their Facebook feed everyday they'll start to forget why they voted for him, others will continue to be apologist out of embarrassment, but Oregoropa has already written a history book to be published in 2050 Trump will be the best president we've ever seen, Ivana #2, and Obama dead last.


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Many will on him pretty quickly, without the screaming of 'Benghazi emails on their Facebook feed everyday they'll start to forget why they voted for him, others will continue to be apologist out of embarrassment, but Oregoropa has already written a history book to be published in 2050 Trump will be the best president we've ever seen, Ivana #2, and Obama dead last.


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I believe I've already addressed that...
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If he turns on them, doesn't follow through on his promises, and becomes just another politician... his supporters will turn on him in a heartbeat. Not the fairweather douches who only voted for him because he had an (R) in front of his name... the true Trump loyalists.
Yeah and I think it will come down to a calculated gamble by the GOP. The midterm elections have even lower turnout than presidential years and typically parties in power have an even more suppressed turnout. A lot of Trump voters probably wouldn't bother voting in the midterms anyway, so if the Republicans can hang on to their congressional districts via gerrymandering alone which they likely can, the establishment may turn on him faster than we expect.

The other thing is if he is going to be challenged for the nomination in 2020 (presuming he actually lasts that long, he still strikes me as somebody totally uninterested in the minutiae of the job), that person will have to have his (sorry ladies) ducks in a row around 2018 already. Now the question is who will do it? Paul Ryan I think just takes marching orders from the Kochs so it depends on how they feel, Ted Cruz kind of shat the bed really with his non-endorsement, then endorsement, then eating crow so he's lost whatever sense of "principles" he had, there is the lunatic Gingrich who seems like the odd man out of the administration (well there's also Christie but let's get real he's done politically), and I don't really know who else? The other very real possibility which to me has the highest odds of happening is Trump stepping aside in 2020 because he won't think the can win, because he's too lazy to go on and the whole thing has become a bore and a chore. He can feed us all some BS about how he's come in and drained the swamp and now it's time to hand over the reigns to lego hair Pence.
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