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Old 11-09-2016, 04:14 PM   #81
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This is the one solid and honest idea.



Which will NEVER happen because you'd require people to vote against their own self interest.

My plan is pretty lenient to congressmen/women. Might be a passable proposal.

8 - 2 year terms in the house = 16 years

3 - 6 year terms in the senate = 18 years.

Granted many will slide from the house into the senate before a full sixteen years.

Let's say on average a politician will be there 14 years with this system. In some combination of roles.

We will cut down on the powerful dinosaurs that amass influence past 35 years. At that point many vote for their own power points than the will of their constituents.

Senators probably won't go for anything less than 18.

Right now the wind is at Donald's back with surprise hold of the senate. The current dinosaurs are nearing retirement so it won't effect them.


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Again, trying to find bits and pieces of good where I can in the darkness.



Someone on CNN just said that if/when the ACA is repealed, the plan it would be replaced with would probably be Paul Ryan's plan. I am sure the plan on the whole will please me much less than the ACA fiscal conservatism, but the person on CNN said Ryan's plan would allow for people with pre-existing conditions to continue receiving coverage.



No idea if that's true, but need to hold on to anything at the moment. It would be one good thing if true.

Trump wants make the insurance market closer to what you can do with car insurance options. Instead of being stuck with two shitty choices you could theoretically browse 20 plans to fit your lifestyle. Basically by opening up state markets

I would like the pre-existing conditions to remain as a basic human right.

Not much good at actuarial science. So I can see some insurers taking a bath on profitability

Plus trump wants families to be able to deduct child care expenses from their taxes at the end of the year.

More power in the hands of the individual instead a top down approach crafted by technocrats


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Again, trying to find bits and pieces of good where I can in the darkness.



Someone on CNN just said that if/when the ACA is repealed, the plan it would be replaced with would probably be Paul Ryan's plan. I am sure the plan on the whole will please me much less than the ACA fiscal conservatism, but the person on CNN said Ryan's plan would allow for people with pre-existing conditions to continue receiving coverage.



No idea if that's true, but need to hold on to anything at the moment. It would be one good thing if true.

It won't be repealed because there isn't a super majority for it.

But parts of it will almost certainly be reconciled.
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Trump wants make the insurance market closer to what you can do with car insurance options. Instead of being stuck with two shitty choices you could theoretically browse 20 plans to fit your lifestyle. Basically by opening up state markets
Yeah, Republicans tried to push this before, it's not going to happen, and it shows they've had 8 years and they haven't done their research.

Medical procedures and licensing are defined differently from state to state. For example one state might define podiatry up to the ankle, the next state might define it as knee down. So a mid ankle break could be operated on by a podiatrist in one state, but not the other. So you have the nightmare of going in and defining the exemptions for all of these discrepancies, or you write it so broad with the worse case scenario as the base point to which you just increased my ankle surgery in TX by double because Illinois requires you to go to an orthopedic surgeon.

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Plus trump wants families to be able to deduct child care expenses from their taxes at the end of the year.
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Yeah, Republicans tried to push this before, it's not going to happen, and it shows they've had 8 years and they haven't done their research.

Medical procedures and licensing are defined differently from state to state. For example one state might define podiatry up to the ankle, the next state might define it as knee down. So a mid ankle break could be operated on by a podiatrist in one state, but not the other. So you have the nightmare of going in and defining the exemptions for all of these discrepancies, or you write it so broad with the worse case scenario as the base point to which you just increased my ankle surgery in TX by double because Illinois requires you to go to an orthopedic surgeon.


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Lotta red tape. That's where Federalism cuts both ways. Give the states power, and you end up with different results. States are laboratories of Democracy. Co-opt what works and what doesn't.

So many states love the Colorado model on Marijuana and look at the spread on ballot initiatives.
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Lotta red tape. That's where Federalism cuts both ways. Give the states power, and you end up with different results. States are laboratories of Democracy. Co-opt what works and what doesn't.



So many states love the Colorado model on Marijuana and look at the spread on ballot initiatives.

But, this is a result of us giving states the power hence why there is no universal definition therefore insurance won't work across borders.


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We put men on the moon. I'm hoping lawmakers can figure this out.

The election is over, but as citizens we need to remained engaged and lobby for good ideas.
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We put men on the moon. I'm hoping lawmakers can figure this out.



The election is over, but as citizens we need to remained engaged and lobby for good ideas.

I agree. I'm just letting you know why that rehash won't work, unless there is federalism involved.


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Some of that is really disappointing. Some is downright terrifying.
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The problem with deducting childcare expenses (as somebody who lives in a place where you can do this) on your tax returns is that it's actually a fairly unfair system when applied nationally or even state-wide. I mean I guess it's better than nothing but allowing me to deduct $7K of daycare costs per year in Toronto covers like 3 months of daycare whereas it wouldn't even add up to a year in other parts of the country. But it would be a start for him to introduce.

My guess as to how some things will play out.

1. Hillary is not going to get arrested. Sorry crazies, but never going to happen. Trump, if forced to explain this will just give the "it's now time to unite, she is no longer a threat to us as a country and in the interest of national unity, blah blah." This will be dispensed with immediately.
2. NAFTA will remain. Not a chance that gets ripped up because it would shock the American economy. It would crush the auto industry, car prices in the US would go through the roof, there would be a huge negative shock rippling through the economy via major job losses, factory shut downs, etc. I can see him getting the Mexicans and Canadians to "sit down" for a "negotiation" so that he can say that he tried and then present some sort of concessions from them which will be basically meaningless but lets him save face. In addition, force the hand of a couple of the auto manufacturers to build small-production plants in Michigan/Ohio, we're talking about very small plants employing small numbers of people basically for show so that he can say he brought jobs back and parade around showing off the facility. None of this will have an appreciable effect on the population of the rust belt but it will be "doing something."
3. TPP is dead.
4. There will be some sort of task force to deport some really bad hombres who have committed felonies, let's say 10,000 people or so. The Republicans can't adopt an openly racist agenda towards Hispanics because demographics is destiny but they have to throw some red meat to the base.
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I certainly hope the basic theme of your post is correct. I suspect it is.
What about the promised tax cuts? With debt so high already, can he follow through on that?

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Has everyone paid homage to the supreme leader Trump yet this week? It's Thursday, don't want to forget.
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Has everyone paid homage to the supreme leader Trump yet this week? It's Thursday, don't want to forget.
Orange juice for breakfast. I'm good.
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The Republicans will own EVERYTHING in 2/4 years. There will be absolutely no escaping from a single failure or international incident.

This is a good start.

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Meanwhile, a person who spoke to the Trump campaign told POLITICO that the aides have also discussed tapping Sarah Palin for Interior secretary. Trump has said he’d like to put Palin in his cabinet, and Palin has made no secret of her interest.
Sarah Palin being considered for I can't even finish this sentence.
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Do we now have to unite the presidential threads too?
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fuck you, Trump voters. fuck your straight white male privilege that lets you live life without consequences beyond those of your own making.

come for my family and i will destroy you.
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FUCK all of you who want us to unify around this man. You want your fucking anecdotal fucking evidence? You want to pretend this shit doesn't matter? My nephew was told to go back to Africa today. A child. By other children. I'm fucking sick to my stomach. Can't stop shaking. This is unreal.
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FUCK all of you. You want your fucking anecdotal fucking evidence? You want to pretend this shit doesn't matter? My nephew was told to go back to Africa today. A child. By other children. I'm fucking sick to my stomach. Can't stop shaking. This is unreal.


i am so sorry.
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Trump will leave SSM alone, he wants Barron to be as happy as the rest of the clan.
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