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Old 11-14-2016, 10:25 AM   #641
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Just one dude's opinion here..

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Old 11-14-2016, 10:34 AM   #642
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Truth right there.

Also to the Bannon detractors, if the white supremacist claims were true, why didn't you and the media run with it the second he was hired?

Seems like it would have lead the nightly news in September if a president hired a real white supremacist to be CEO of his campaign.


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There were plenty of news articles expressing worry about Bannon's alt-right/white nationalist leanings when he was hired by Trump.
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Also, Oregoropa, you don't think an article entitled "The Confederate Flag: Proclaiming a Glorious Heritage" might have some white supremacist content?
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Old 11-14-2016, 10:42 AM   #645
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In your mind explain to me how the head of a Breaitbart.com = White Supremacisit

It's the conservative Huffington Post.

Informative, funny, also satire

I have never read a 'white supremacy' article on there


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Truth right there.

Also to the Bannon detractors, if the white supremacist claims were true, why didn't you and the media run with it the second he was hired?

Seems like it would have lead the nightly news in September if a president hired a real white supremacist to be CEO of his campaign.


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Ummm yea. It was a big story when he was hired. It was seen as Trump doubling down in his rhetoric.

Thanks, though.
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It's amazing how high the bar is for some to be able see the racism they've aided and abetted.

It's as if the only real racism comes from the KKK and the only wai a candidate could ever be a racist pushing a racist platform is if he were endorsed by the KKK.

Oh, wait ...
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And reading about Trump and the nuclear codes and the "Deep Secrets" this morning was just about the most upsetting, chilling thing I've ever read.
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What are the chances that Trump is going to want to do something really fucking stupid with the nuclear arsenal and these generals that he knows more than refuse to do it?
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I think Trump is just going to be a pawn. It will be a struggle internally between the Republican establishment (probably licking at the chops with the realization he knows nothing about anything in regards to how a government runs) and the Bannon-types who want to go completely rogue. Generally I think Trump is far too lazy to actually put in the time so whichever faction wins will be pulling his puppet strings.
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I can remember reading in here where George W Bush was a racist and he was going to "nuke us all", or whatever the hysteria of the moment was at that time. Perhaps that was Cheney instead of Bush, it's hard to even remember at this point. Anyway, it's a miracle we survived that unstable time period without mass extinction.

These last few years must have been like the Garden of Eden oasis, given what once was and what will soon be again. That racist TRUMP is going to nuke us all really really soon! Poor Baron, he'll never have had the chance to realize his father's dreams. Maybe we should all just party like it's 1999 and give a Bigly "FU" to our boss at our jobs and throw away our mortgage payments on exotic necessities to get us through till the end.

Now please excuse me while i go and listen to 'American Idiot' on repeat while waxing my Stingray. YaY nostalgia!! Sound the TRUMPETS!!!
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Teju Cole, a hero:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/ma...r-refusal.html

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It is a Sunday afternoon in a provincial town in France. Two men meet at a cafe. One of them, Berenger, is half-drunk. He is being berated by his companion, Jean. All of the sudden, they hear a great noise. When they and other townspeople crane their necks to figure out what’s going on, they see a large animal thundering down one of the streets, stamping and snorting all the way. A rhinoceros! Not long after, there’s another. They are startled. It’s outrageous. Something must be done. What they begin to do is argue heatedly about whether the second rhino was the first one going past a second time or a different one, and then about whether the rhinos are African or Asiatic.

Things become more disturbing in the next act. (This is a play: “Rhinoceros,” written by Eugène Ionesco.) The rhino sightings continue to be the subject of pointless dispute. Then, one by one, various people in the town begin to turn into rhinos. Their skin hardens, bumps appear over their noses and grow into horns. Jean had been one of those scandalized by the first two rhino sightings, but he becomes a rhino, too. Midway through his metamorphosis, Berenger argues with him: “You must admit that we have a philosophy that animals don’t share, and an irreplaceable set of values, which it’s taken centuries of human civilization to build up.” Jean, well on his way to being a rhino, retorts, “When we’ve demolished all that, we’ll be better off!”

It is an epidemic of “rhinoceritis.” Almost everyone succumbs: those who admire the brute force of the rhinos, those who didn’t believe the sightings to begin with, those who initially found them alarming. One character, Dudard, declares, “If you’re going to criticize, it’s better to do so from the inside.” And so he willingly undergoes the metamorphosis, and there’s no way back for him.
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On Aug. 19, 2015, shortly after midnight, the brothers Stephen and Scott Leader assaulted Guillermo Rodriguez. Rodriguez had been sleeping near a train station in Boston. The Leader brothers beat him with a metal pipe, breaking his nose and bruising his ribs, and called him a “wetback.” They urinated on him. “All these illegals need to be deported,” they are said to have declared during the attack. The brothers were fans of the candidate who would go on to win the Republican party’s presidential nomination. Told of the incident at the time, that candidate said: “People who are following me are very passionate. They love this country, and they want this country to be great again.”

That was the moment when my mental alarm bells, already ringing, went amok. There were many other astonishing events to come — the accounts of sexual violence, the evidence of racism, the promise of torture, the advocacy of war crimes — but the assault on Rodriguez, as well as the largely tolerant response to it, was a marker. Some people were outraged, but outrage soon became its own ineffectual reflex. Others found a rich vein of humor in the parade of obscenities and cruelties. Others simply took a view similar to that of the character Botard in Ionesco’s play: “I don’t mean to be offensive. But I don’t believe a word of it. No rhinoceros has ever been seen in this country!”
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I can remember reading in here where George W Bush was a racist and he was going to "nuke us all", or whatever the hysteria of the moment was at that time.

no, you can't, because no one ever said that.

don't make shit up.
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Also, Oregoropa, you don't think an article entitled "The Confederate Flag: Proclaiming a Glorious Heritage" might have some white supremacist content?

Just read the article. Running errands. Will return later with my thoughts.


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I just can't be around this much ignorance anymore. Enjoy the echo-chamber.
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no, you can't, because no one ever said that.

don't make shit up.
Yes i can, and yes there were some who said that.
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This will be one of the most difficult aspects of the next four years, trying to have a REAL discussion about race or misogyny, because there honestly is no interest there.

Some cannot recognize it without a hood or the use of the n word, therefore hyperbole. Others, as we just saw, will just make up shit or twist what was said so as to not have to admit there was racism or sexism.

Our country has just turned into the comments section.


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This will be one of the most difficult aspects of the next four years, trying to have a REAL discussion about race or misogyny, because there honestly is no interest there.

Some cannot recognize it without a hood or the use of the n word, therefore hyperbole. Others, as we just saw, will just make up shit or twist what was said so as to not have to admit there was racism or sexism.

Our country has just turned into the comments section.


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that was a short vacation
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that was a short vacation

Yeah, obviously I'm having a hard time watching the country and the forum go down the shitter.


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