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Old 11-12-2016, 11:01 PM   #501
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Hard to take his pride in that flag seriously when he picks a vice president who's one of THE most anti-LGBT politicians imaginable and you consider his ability to easily con voters/supporters.

But sure. You just keep telling yourself this administration will be a friend to the LGBT community.
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I do think some people are angry because their side didn't win. In fact some people in here spiked the football prematurely leading up to election day, and rubbed their certain "victory" in our faces and danced all around us, mocked us, even. And then when that victory didn't happen....oops! Now let's jump on the bandwagon of "you must be a racist because you voted for one" and "you are really missing the point" or "you were conned".

Since the election i have been called several things in here; poor, uneducated, low information voter, racist, idiot, dick, c__t, and so many other not very nice things.

I think you personally have some anger issues that might need to be addressed. Rather than continue the tirade towards a token TRUMP supporter online, why not get out of here and spend time with your family or pick up a healthy hobby?

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However nobody owes you an apology. This is a democracy not a funeral. You don't get a trophy for coming in second or last place, and nor should you.
I'm so sorry that you were called low information. The people who have been attacked by your candidate throughout his entire campaign must be sooooo sympathetic to your plight.

You think that "our side" is angry. If that's the side if human decency? Yea, you're right.

But political affiliation? Sorry bro, not here. The only party I've actually ever been a part of us the Republican party, actually. But after leaving the lillywhite, sheltered town I grew up in, I came to realize just how morally reprehensible the social stances that were needed to succeed in that sham of a political organization, so I left, and remain independent.

So "my side" didn't lose. America lost.

Some things are more important than political affiliation. This man is a con. He's not even a major real estate developer, and hasn't been in decades. Why? He went bankrupt. Most of the buildings with his name on it he didn't even build. He's a brand; famous for being famous. You think this smart businessman is going to fix anything? You voted for a glorified Kim Kardashian. You. Were. Conned.

But worse, he's done nothing but spew hateful rhetoric throughout his campaign. I know all Trump supporters aren't racist homophobes. But ya did vote for one. And don't show that fucking pixture of Trump with the rainbow flag again. A man who cares about LBGT rights does not name Mike Pence as his running mate.

Anger issues? Yea bro, I'm pretty fucking angry about this. And I won't stop protesting until he's gone, no matter how long that takes. Which, come on... shouldn't really be that long. Do you really think those Apprentice tapes of him dropping N bombs left and right will stay locked up forever?

This man is a piece of shit. Congrats on "your side" electing him and "winning."
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Hard to take his pride in that flag seriously when he picks a vice president who's one of THE most anti-LGBT politicians imaginable and you consider his ability to easily con voters/supporters.

But sure. You just keep telling yourself this administration will be a friend to the LGBT community.

Hillary took millions from Persian Gulf Countries into the Foundation. Countries that condemn gays to death just for being who they are.

Trump called on her to return the money. What say you?

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Hillary took millions from Persian Gulf Countries into the Foundation. Countries that condemn gays to death just for being who they are.
Taking money from a country as a whole isn't the same thing as taking money from specific individuals. Did she take money from specific individuals who advocated for the killings of gay people, or did the foundation just accept money from various people in that country who may have had no involvement in or supported that horrible shit?

If it's the former, that's upsetting and horrible. If it's the latter, then I don't get why those donors need to be blamed for the horrible beliefs others in their country hold.

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How nice of him. Still doesn't negate the fact that he picked a rabidly anti-LGBT vice president. If he cares so much about gay people, why'd he pick Mike Pence?

Also, Headache shared an article a few pages back noting that many of Trump's overseas businesses did dealings with unfriendly countries. So he should stop accepting money and business from those places and return any money he made off that stuff, too. Right?
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Just own it. It's all I ask.

If you voted Trump, I know you are not necessarily racist, misogynist, xenophobes. But you did see a racist, misogynist, xenophobe and said "this is an acceptable person to lead our country."

So when you get called racist, misogynist, and xenophobic -- and you see people protesting against this person and feeling hurt that their fellow Americans voted to put such a person in power -- understand that your actions have enabled and legitimized and normalized racism, misogyny, and xenophobia and have thus put other people's lives in danger.

You don't get to escape it because your feelings are hurt that people are calling you names. You may have felt like you had no other choice; you may have felt like he was genuinely the best choice for reasons that had nothing to do with hate.

But you have to own what you have done.

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Just own it. It's all I ask.

If you voted Trump, I know you are not necessarily racist, misogynist, xenophobes. But you did see a racist, misogynist, xenophobe and said "this is an acceptable person to lead our country."

So when you get called racist, misogynist, and xenophobic -- and you see people protesting against this person and feeling hurt that their fellow Americans voted to put such a person in power -- understand that your actions have enabled and legitimized and normalized racism, misogyny, and xenophobia and have thus put other people's lives in danger.

You don't get to escape it because your feelings are hurt that people are calling you names. You may have felt like you had no other choice; you may have felt like he was genuinely the best choice for reasons that had nothing to do with hate.

But you have to own what you have done.

Goodnight.
So you're saying its OK for Hillary's supporters to go around calling any Trump supporter racist etc.?
Just want to get that straight.
Because someone supported Clinton, they have carte blanche to treat folks who voted the other way whatever names they want, knowing nothing about that person?

But only the folks who voted for Trump are the problem here.
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So you're saying its OK for Hillary's supporters to go around calling any Trump supporter racist etc.?

Just want to get that straight.

Because someone supported Clinton, they have carte blanche to treat folks who voted the other way whatever names they want, knowing nothing about that person?



But only the folks who voted for Trump are the problem here.

Got it.


The folks who voted for Trump voted for racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism. They also gave their support for sexual assault. They also gave approval to the alt-right white supremacists who surround his campaign like Steve Brannon, who may become his chief of staff.

These individuals themselves may not be racist, xenophobic, or white nationalists. But they voted for it.

What a privilege it must be to vote for such things because it won't ever affect you.
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is that a racist comment because you don't like native americans
You may want to research Trump's history with concern to Native Americans.
He smeared them before Congress 20 years ago, in order to protect his Atlantic City casino (it failed). The Trumps may want to expand into casinos again, and he would probably try similar tactics again. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to assign a label to all Native Americans at some point.
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Everyone overlooks the flaws in their candidate of choice in order to offer their country the greater good.

The flaws of Trump just happen to be sexism, homophobia, misogyny, etc.
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So, my longest friend (at least, of those with whom I'm still close) currently lives in Georgia. Since the election she's been almost too afraid to go outside. Two of her friends have had guns pulled on them by people shouting pro-Trump slogans. Both are fine, fortunately. One was let go because he was white, because the person who pulled the gun on him didn't twig this guy is as gay as it gets.

Also, I love the people saying "oh it'll be fine, it will all blow over". Yeah, it will be fine until it's not. Sure, many of us were greatly disappointed in Bush's victory - and especially his re-election - but that was more embarrassment and mockery. Nobody thought this was fascistic, or white nationalistic, or whatever. This campaign has unleashed some unpleasant forces, much like similar events have done in Europe (and to a lesser extent in Australia). The current trend of global events is not positive. We do not know whether shit will hit the fan, or how much. But I do not have a good feeling about the current political trajectory of the West. Whatever happens or does not happen, this moment ought to at least be a good lesson in historical contingency.
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https://thinkprogress.org/9-terrifyi...32a#.z7cufipo2 Go deplorables.

And consider next year in Europe, Gert Wilders, Marine Le Pen, Alternative fuer Deutschland & co. are just waiting in line to rise to power...
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The folks who voted for Trump voted for racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism. They also gave their support for sexual assault. They also gave approval to the alt-right white supremacists who surround his campaign like Steve Brannon, who may become his chief of staff.

These individuals themselves may not be racist, xenophobic, or white nationalists. But they voted for it.

What a privilege it must be to vote for such things because it won't ever affect you.

Ahhh just keep repeating the mantra 'racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism'

The mantra that has been repeated over and over and over. Beaten into the brains of free-thinking Americans by liberals on Facebook, the Media. They got to voting booth and the weren't sick of minorities and Muslims, they were sick of being told they were racists by smug people that did not know them.

This is why you lost.


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Ahhh just keep repeating the mantra 'racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism'

The mantra that has been repeated over and over and over. Beaten into the brains of free-thinking Americans by liberals on Facebook, the Media. They got to voting booth and the weren't sick of minorities and Muslims, they were sick of being told they were racists by smug people that did not know them.

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I think the whole world has lost

Ps - you do realise Clinton actually won though don't you?
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"My side" excels at hysteria? This from the "Merry Christmas" freak-out-about-a-Starbucks-cup crowd?
I am an Independent and not necessarily evangelical, though i have my beliefs, but if you can find anywhere where i have freaked out about a Starbucks cup then please make me aware of it.

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Don't ever tell me about the victim card. People like Mike Pence have the power and ability to reduce my (apparently) money making bragging ass and reduce me to a "choice" that requires conversion therapy and people can deny me a hotel at the inn or my marriage license or a seat at the counter or a hospital visit. That's the fear. That no matter what I do, or who I am, I can be reduced to a faggot and discarded as such. THESE are the people who want to take something from me. Not Mexicans, not Muslims, not anyone else. I vote for the working classes, for the urban poor, for people less fortunate than I. I vote against the Donald Trumps of the world.
Yeah Mike Pence, i don't like him as much on social issues as you might think, in fact i find the conversion therapy disgusting and i support marriage equality. I hope that same sex marriage and the repeal of DADT are upheld to be honest. However keeping all of Americans safe, to include our LGBT brothers and sisters, is very important now more than ever. Mike Pence will never cut your head off, set you on fire in a cage, or throw you off of a building because of your sexual orientation.

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You voted for a man who makes Putin and ISIS happy. You have been conned. We are less safe because of your vote.
I prefer not to go to war with Putin or Russia. ISIS wants to kill you, not me, not TRUMP or PENCE. HRC just wanted your vote, she doesn't really care about you and she was never with your or on your side. That is a fallacy. You were conned into believing that she was on your side when her foundation took millions of dollars from governments who have outlawed homosexuality - punishable by death. HRC created ISIS through her foreign policy and now they want to come here and kill you. You were conned. Thank GOD that now we have TRUMP and he's not going to let that happen.
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Win so much, we'll be tired of all the winning.
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I should stop. I'm angry.

NOT BECAUSE WE "LOST," but because America died on Tuesday.

It's not a competition. We have elected an ignorant authoritarian. Truth and fact are dead. And the minority who voted for this horrible sexual assaulting man won't admit it.
I woke up this morning in America once again and i am relieved to say that we are still here or not dead

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So you're saying its OK for Hillary's supporters to go around calling any Trump supporter racist etc.?
Just want to get that straight.
Because someone supported Clinton, they have carte blanche to treat folks who voted the other way whatever names they want, knowing nothing about that person?

But only the folks who voted for Trump are the problem here.
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Ahhh just keep repeating the mantra 'racism, xenophobia, and white nationalism'

The mantra that has been repeated over and over and over. Beaten into the brains of free-thinking Americans by liberals on Facebook, the Media. They got to voting booth and the weren't sick of minorities and Muslims, they were sick of being told they were racists by smug people that did not know them.

This is why you lost.


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Clinton's popular vote lead approaching 2 million, with more votes to be counted, largely in Democratic strongholds on the west coast.

Predicted to equal or surpass Obama's vote total in 2012.
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I am an Independent and not necessarily evangelical, though i have my beliefs, but if you can find anywhere where i have freaked out about a Starbucks cup then please make me aware of it.



Yeah Mike Pence, i don't like him as much on social issues as you might think, in fact i find the conversion therapy disgusting and i support marriage equality. I hope that same sex marriage and the repeal of DADT are upheld to be honest. However keeping all of Americans safe, to include our LGBT brothers and sisters, is very important now more than ever. Mike Pence will never cut your head off, set you on fire in a cage, or throw you off of a building because of your sexual orientation.


I prefer not to go to war with Putin or Russia. ISIS wants to kill you, not me, not TRUMP or PENCE. HRC just wanted your vote, she doesn't really care about you and she was never with your or on your side. That is a fallacy. You were conned into believing that she was on your side when her foundation took millions of dollars from governments who have outlawed homosexuality - punishable by death. HRC created ISIS through her foreign policy and now they want to come here and kill you. You were conned. Thank GOD that now we have TRUMP and he's not going to let that happen.

are you for real?

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I think the whole world has lost

Ps - you do realise Clinton actually won though don't you?
Judging from all of the hysteria and shit posting in here from her supporters i would say that she lost.
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