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Old 11-12-2016, 09:08 AM   #421
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Guys, which one is it, supreme leader fuhrer trump, or doesn't want the job trump?

I'm still pretty sold on this being oberfuhrer Donald.
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Old 11-12-2016, 09:14 AM   #422
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I think it's "sold you on supreme leader and surrounded myself with people who wanted that vision but really all I wanted to do was market a new TV Station that appealed to assholes, and now I'm kinda stuck in the middle cause, as it turns out, America is really fucking stupid."
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Donald Trump Prepares for White House Move, but His Tower May Still Beckon http://nyti.ms/2eq2dVm


Guy never wanted the job.

Good job electing him, dicks
Pretty sure this will fuck up my commute every Friday.
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Pretty sure this will fuck up my commute every Friday.
Pretty sure this will fuck up everyone's commute for the next 4 years. They're talking if having it like how they have the stock exchange
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Ugh. Infowars.

9/11 was an inside job!
Sandy Hook was a government conspiracy to take away our guns!
Obama and Hillary are literally demons!

If you're reposting infowars material, you're doing it wrong.
It is however a good video
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So when he runs for re-election in four years, are we still going to be claiming he never wanted the job?
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Friday Night Barstool Thought: can we get that damn album already so we have some fun together !!!

It took me a month to process the Romney loss. I understand the pain.

I texted "Love you" to my sister for the first time in awhile when she was coping with the loss of her side. She's nervous. Our families will come back together.

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Good post. After the Romney loss i went into work the next day and there were a lot of angry people but we got over it. The sun still rose that day and we still had our jobs, our homes, our cars, our families, and our lives. The following weekend i took my Dad to see the movie 'Skyfall', which was excellent and we had a great time. Also kind of fitting, as in, the sky really wasn't falling afterall.

I have tried to convey this sentiment to some people here and i do hope they understand that just because we voted on different sides of the coin that does not make us enemies.
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There's zero comparison between Romney and Trump. Zero.
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There's zero comparison between Romney and Trump. Zero.
That wasn't the point.
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That wasn't the point.
And if you think we're angry amply because "our side didn't win," then you're really missing the point as well.
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Because it isn't even "our side." For some it is. For others, it's their acknowledgement the he's not real.
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And if you think we're angry amply because "our side didn't win," then you're really missing the point as well.
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And if you think we're angry simply because "our side didn't win," then you're really missing the point as well.
One of the big problems that I see with modern politics is that people treat political parties like sports teams. I suppose this is a result of the silos or echo chambers that many people live in. It's okay to say "I've been a lifelong Republican but I don't like where the party is going. This is not cool." Instead, many people - but not all - will blindly vote for a party because it's "their side". And that's why you'll see politicians of all stripes doing and saying horrible things, because they know that they'll get that support from their base no matter what.

As someone who is not an ideologue, I find that extremely discouraging. I'm hopeful that this is a wakeup call for people to be more demanding of our leaders, no matter the letter that is beside their name. But I'm not naive either.
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One of the big problems that I see with modern politics is that people treat political parties like sports teams.

I've made this point a million times on many different outlets. I just finished up a long thread on Facebook where I was challenging someone's comparison of the Democratic and republican parties throughout history, where they were displaying how evil democrats are by bringing up the civil war and slavery, the KKK, etc.

This is such irresponsible thinking. I didn't even challenge his shitty views. Instead, I stuck to running over his factually incorrect assertion that the views of these parties have been consistent throughout history. The ideologies and views of these parties have completely done 180° since the inception of the Republican Party.
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Good post. After the Romney loss i went into work the next day and there were a lot of angry people but we got over it. The sun still rose that day and we still had our jobs, our homes, our cars, our families, and our lives. The following weekend i took my Dad to see the movie 'Skyfall', which was excellent and we had a great time. Also kind of fitting, as in, the sky really wasn't falling afterall.



I have tried to convey this sentiment to some people here and i do hope they understand that just because we voted on different sides of the coin that does not make us enemies.


It kind of does, though, right?

You voted for a man who pointed at Mexicans, Muslims, our black president, and immigrants (and women) and said that these people were your enemies and they need to be removed in order to make America great again. He also put thenastiest anti-gay governor on his ticket, and he's been endorsed by the KKK and has appointed representatives from hate groups to lead his transition team, and he is advised by white supremacists.

You fell for it. Or maybe you agree?

Either way, it seems to me that the onus is on the people who ran on the notion that there are enemies among us to tell the people they said were the enemy that they aren't the enemy.
That we're sorry and we're going to make it up to you.

It's up to you to reach out and make amends, not the Muslim or Mexican kids who are terrified Donald Trump is going to deport them all.
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It's up to you to reach out and make amends, not the Muslim or Mexican kids who are terrified Donald Trump is going to deport them all.

This sounds oddly familiar to the earlier war we all had over whether or not liberals should do something in display of showing that liberalism doesn't include violence on political institutions. The same argument that was met with 'well it's obviously not my belief and therefore we don't have to do shit.'

For what it's worth, I do agree that it's their responsibility to disavow beliefs they don't hold. Sucks for the ones who got the label by association, but yes, they've an obligation to say 'we might support this part, but not all of the prejudiced stuff.' For if they do nothing about it but be bystanders, they might as well accept it as their collective view.
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I'm of two minds on that. It seems something of a fallacy to assume that because someone voted for Trump, they support 100% of his statements and policies. On the other hand, it's completely reasonable for people of color and LGBT folks to feel unsafe and in need of reassurance based on the results of the election.

I think where the response of "the left," whatever that means, needs to begin is locally. A good friend of mine, who comes from a Muslim background, told me one of her practicing Muslim friends is looking to run for local office, galvanized by these results - that's the kind of activism we need, especially from those who feel under or mis-represented.
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It seems something of a fallacy to assume that because someone voted for Trump, they support 100% of his statements and policies..

i don't think that the Trump voters in here are particularly racist or misogynist.

but that doesn't change the fact that that voted for racist policies animated by a desire to return to an era of white supremacy.
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Avoid Wilshire if you're in Los Angeles right now and don't feel like being one of the 10,000 people currently marching against Trump.


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And if you think we're angry amply because "our side didn't win," then you're really missing the point as well.
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One of the big problems that I see with modern politics is that people treat political parties like sports teams. I suppose this is a result of the silos or echo chambers that many people live in. It's okay to say "I've been a lifelong Republican but I don't like where the party is going. This is not cool." Instead, many people - but not all - will blindly vote for a party because it's "their side". And that's why you'll see politicians of all stripes doing and saying horrible things, because they know that they'll get that support from their base no matter what.

As someone who is not an ideologue, I find that extremely discouraging. I'm hopeful that this is a wakeup call for people to be more demanding of our leaders, no matter the letter that is beside their name. But I'm not naive either.
my cousin told me to grow up and get over it because "your team lost". I said, "I didn't know this was a sporting event" and she replied by telling me I was a smart ass and she hoped I could sleep at night knowing I'd degraded over half my family.

I decided not to respond. It's like, thanks...im feeling suicidally depressed right now, and you made it so much better.

I've basically stayed off Facebook since then.


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I didn't think they were still going to do it because the Facebook event disappeared. Damn it!
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