LuckyNumber7
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Guys, which one is it, supreme leader fuhrer trump, or doesn't want the job trump?
I'm still pretty sold on this being oberfuhrer Donald.
I'm still pretty sold on this being oberfuhrer Donald.
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I think it's "sold you on supreme leader and surrounded myself with people who wanted that vision but really all I wanted to do was market a new TV Station that appealed to assholes, and now I'm kinda stuck in the middle cause, as it turns out, America is really fucking stupid."
Pretty sure this will fuck up my commute every Friday.
Pretty sure this will fuck up everyone's commute for the next 4 years. They're talking if having it like how they have the stock exchange
Mrs. Garrison
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
It is however a good video
iron yuppie
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So when he runs for re-election in four years, are we still going to be claiming he never wanted the job?
Mrs. Garrison
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Good post. After the Romney loss i went into work the next day and there were a lot of angry people but we got over it. The sun still rose that day and we still had our jobs, our homes, our cars, our families, and our lives. The following weekend i took my Dad to see the movie 'Skyfall', which was excellent and we had a great time. Also kind of fitting, as in, the sky really wasn't falling afterall.
I have tried to convey this sentiment to some people here and i do hope they understand that just because we voted on different sides of the coin that does not make us enemies.
There's zero comparison between Romney and Trump. Zero.
Mrs. Garrison
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
That wasn't the point.
And if you think we're angry amply because "our side didn't win," then you're really missing the point as well.
LuckyNumber7
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Because it isn't even "our side." For some it is. For others, it's their acknowledgement the he's not real.
Moonlit_Angel
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BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
One of the big problems that I see with modern politics is that people treat political parties like sports teams. I suppose this is a result of the silos or echo chambers that many people live in. It's okay to say "I've been a lifelong Republican but I don't like where the party is going. This is not cool." Instead, many people - but not all - will blindly vote for a party because it's "their side". And that's why you'll see politicians of all stripes doing and saying horrible things, because they know that they'll get that support from their base no matter what.
As someone who is not an ideologue, I find that extremely discouraging. I'm hopeful that this is a wakeup call for people to be more demanding of our leaders, no matter the letter that is beside their name. But I'm not naive either.
LuckyNumber7
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I've made this point a million times on many different outlets. I just finished up a long thread on Facebook where I was challenging someone's comparison of the Democratic and republican parties throughout history, where they were displaying how evil democrats are by bringing up the civil war and slavery, the KKK, etc.
This is such irresponsible thinking. I didn't even challenge his shitty views. Instead, I stuck to running over his factually incorrect assertion that the views of these parties have been consistent throughout history. The ideologies and views of these parties have completely done 180° since the inception of the Republican Party.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
It kind of does, though, right?
You voted for a man who pointed at Mexicans, Muslims, our black president, and immigrants (and women) and said that these people were your enemies and they need to be removed in order to make America great again. He also put thenastiest anti-gay governor on his ticket, and he's been endorsed by the KKK and has appointed representatives from hate groups to lead his transition team, and he is advised by white supremacists.
You fell for it. Or maybe you agree?
Either way, it seems to me that the onus is on the people who ran on the notion that there are enemies among us to tell the people they said were the enemy that they aren't the enemy.
That we're sorry and we're going to make it up to you.
It's up to you to reach out and make amends, not the Muslim or Mexican kids who are terrified Donald Trump is going to deport them all.
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LuckyNumber7
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This sounds oddly familiar to the earlier war we all had over whether or not liberals should do something in display of showing that liberalism doesn't include violence on political institutions. The same argument that was met with 'well it's obviously not my belief and therefore we don't have to do shit.'
For what it's worth, I do agree that it's their responsibility to disavow beliefs they don't hold. Sucks for the ones who got the label by association, but yes, they've an obligation to say 'we might support this part, but not all of the prejudiced stuff.' For if they do nothing about it but be bystanders, they might as well accept it as their collective view.
iron yuppie
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I'm of two minds on that. It seems something of a fallacy to assume that because someone voted for Trump, they support 100% of his statements and policies. On the other hand, it's completely reasonable for people of color and LGBT folks to feel unsafe and in need of reassurance based on the results of the election.
I think where the response of "the left," whatever that means, needs to begin is locally. A good friend of mine, who comes from a Muslim background, told me one of her practicing Muslim friends is looking to run for local office, galvanized by these results - that's the kind of activism we need, especially from those who feel under or mis-represented.
I think where the response of "the left," whatever that means, needs to begin is locally. A good friend of mine, who comes from a Muslim background, told me one of her practicing Muslim friends is looking to run for local office, galvanized by these results - that's the kind of activism we need, especially from those who feel under or mis-represented.
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
i don't think that the Trump voters in here are particularly racist or misogynist.
but that doesn't change the fact that that voted for racist policies animated by a desire to return to an era of white supremacy.
david
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Avoid Wilshire if you're in Los Angeles right now and don't feel like being one of the 10,000 people currently marching against Trump.
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bono_212
Blue Crack Distributor
This.
my cousin told me to grow up and get over it because "your team lost". I said, "I didn't know this was a sporting event" and she replied by telling me I was a smart ass and she hoped I could sleep at night knowing I'd degraded over half my family.
I decided not to respond. It's like, thanks...im feeling suicidally depressed right now, and you made it so much better.
I've basically stayed off Facebook since then.
I didn't think they were still going to do it because the Facebook event disappeared. Damn it!
bono_212
Blue Crack Distributor
Totally fair. I get that.
Mrs. Garrison
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
I do think some people are angry because their side didn't win. In fact some people in here spiked the football prematurely leading up to election day, and rubbed their certain "victory" in our faces and danced all around us, mocked us, even. And then when that victory didn't happen....oops! Now let's jump on the bandwagon of "you must be a racist because you voted for one" and "you are really missing the point" or "you were conned".
Since the election i have been called several things in here; poor, uneducated, low information voter, racist, idiot, dick, c__t, and so many other not very nice things.
I think you personally have some anger issues that might need to be addressed. Rather than continue the tirade towards a token TRUMP supporter online, why not get out of here and spend time with your family or pick up a healthy hobby?
When i mentioned before that i took my Dad to see 'Skyfall' and we had a good time, what i didn't mention was that i never got to take my Dad to see another movie after that. Consider that for a second, life is short and precious, and you never know what tomorrow is going to bring. Or, as you guys like to say, LOVE TRUMPS HATE.
I voted for a man who wants to fix ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, and is fed up with violence caused by some illegal immigrants. If they are LEGAL citizens then what is the problem?
Muslims, as Bill Maher likes to say, own terrorism or terrorist attacks. It's true. NOT ALL MUSLIMS, but a few radicals. TRUMP does not want radical terrorists blowing up shit in this country and i agree with him.
I didn't fall for anything, again perhaps you should have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries which is what i did.
I do agree the new administration needs to reach out to everyone, as i and others have been saying, afterall, they are going to be president of everyone and not just the people who voted for them.
However nobody owes you an apology. This is a democracy not a funeral. You don't get a trophy for coming in second or last place, and nor should you.
bobsaget77
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Mrs. Garrison
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best post i've ever read on FYM.
Thank you. Now you better duck before the food fight commences.
LemonMelon
More 5G Than Man
If you voted for Trump on the strength of his policies and ideology, you were conned. In fact, many Trump voters knew they were being conned and accepted it because of the alternative. Because of what he purported to not be.
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There were countless Trump voters exactly like her.
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Mrs. Garrison
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
The alternative is probably the reason i voted for TRUMP. Here is an interesting video from Chirs Matthews of all people, it's pretty stunning:
bobsaget77
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Judging his policies to be that of a con man before he's even taken office?
This is coming from a group of people who were wrong every step of the way for the last 18 months.
The radical left has become so far out of touch that they don't have a clue why Trump was elected. They believe every lie the media feeds them.
Western civilization is going through what I call an "anti-Marxian" revolution. Marx claimed that socialism, communism, etc would take over western culture once people became so sick of capitalism they would beg for it. The reverse has happened. People are so sick and tired of this globalist, big government mess that they're now taking back they're government and are purging liberalism. Liberals are the minority in this country and it is showing it's head. It has no leadership, it has no direction and it has no future.
LemonMelon
More 5G Than Man
Trump, he of Democrat and Independent registration for much of this century, started backpedaling the day he got elected. It's just the beginning. If it weren't for the makeup of Congress, conservatives wouldn't have a prayer.
"Liberals are in the minority," based on the Trump revolution that brought in fewer votes than Mitt fucking Romney? Give me a break. "Liberal" is relative, but if we're working off a binary, get back to me when abortion and SSM stop being no-brainers for the majority. Out of two enormously unpopular candidates, someone had to win. Trump riled up just enough voters to get into office and beat a despised candidate, but not enough to surpass the totals of an establishment fraud that got washed by Obama, nor Clinton herself.
"Liberals are in the minority," based on the Trump revolution that brought in fewer votes than Mitt fucking Romney? Give me a break. "Liberal" is relative, but if we're working off a binary, get back to me when abortion and SSM stop being no-brainers for the majority. Out of two enormously unpopular candidates, someone had to win. Trump riled up just enough voters to get into office and beat a despised candidate, but not enough to surpass the totals of an establishment fraud that got washed by Obama, nor Clinton herself.
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Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
Wow, sports metaphors. Because that's what this is if your life isn't actually on the line. He said Mexicans coming to this country were murderers and rapists. And that a judge wasn't capable of hearing his case because of his Mexican heritage. And he's surrounded by actual white supremacists.
1. No evidence Sanders would have done better
2. I'm more scared of white American men with guns than I am of Muslims. I am much, much more likely to be killed by one of you than I am by a terrorist (and I live in a city that is a terror target). Trump is who ISIS (and Russia and the KKK) want in office.
Sorry, out of time to go further. I'm not looking for an apology, I'm looking for you to admit that your vote just made a lot of Americans less safe and to be clear about who you just put into power.
The point about being "conned" is that you didn't vote for, nor are you going to get, what it is you said you voted for.
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