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Old 11-11-2016, 01:07 AM   #261
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Fear of a man who has empowered deplorable rhetoric for over a year and got everything he wanted



We can agree that some , many people are motivated to gin up these acts of violence to try and lay blame on Trump. It's a fact the DN C paid people to gin up violence at Trump rallies.

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We can agree that some , many people are motivated to gin up these acts of violence to try and lay blame on Trump. It's a fact the DN C paid people to gin up violence at Trump rallies.

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Project Veritas and American hero James O' Keefe exposed this. And boy, he did a wonderful job. Beautiful guy. The best.
It's quite sad and pathetic that people think these riots are okay. Explains why they lost: out of touch social justice warriors.
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You are the one living in bizarro.
The liberals/dems have been decimated since 2010 at all levels of government, yet project themselves to be the majority. Now we own it all.
We will make america great again.
Keep dreaming. You'll be in for a very rude awakening over the next few years.

Seriously, you were just going on a few weeks ago about disavowing Trump because of all those horrible comments he made. Now suddenly he's going to be the hero this country needs? Way to stick by those supposed principles .
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there are people who genuinely still believe that it's even physically possible for that wall to get built?
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You missed the point, build the wall was a metaphor for secure the border to prevent uncontrolled immigration and truckloads of illegal drugs coming in and killing people

Why would anybody be against that
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so the several times he gave actual physical dimensions for this thing and spoke earnestly about how a real live 90 foot high concrete wall was the best solution to stop illegal immigration, that was all just a metaphor now?
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Keep dreaming. You'll be in for a very rude awakening over the next few years.

Seriously, you were just going on a few weeks ago about disavowing Trump because of all those horrible comments he made. Now suddenly he's going to be the hero this country needs? Way to stick by those supposed principles .
Each of the 50 states can choose a governor
31 Republicans, and 19 Democrats
Each of the 50 states can elect 2 senators
52 GOP 48 Democrats
And each of the 435 congressional districts they choose Republican or Democrat
242 - 193 , ok, a little gerrymander here, but not state houses or senate
The American people clearly prefer Republicans over Democrats
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so the several times he gave actual physical dimensions for this thing and spoke earnestly about how a real live 90 foot high concrete wall was the best solution to stop illegal immigration, that was all just a metaphor now?
100 per cent, a secured and controled boarder has always only been the goal.

Again why would anybody be against that, really why are the Democrats against that
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100 per cent, a secured and controled boarder has always only been the goal.

Again why would anybody be against that, really why are the Democrats against that
this might be the most naked and sad attempt at backpedaling i've ever heard. of course he promised a real wall.
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this might be the most naked and sad attempt at backpedaling i've ever heard. of course he promised a real wall.
yes he did and he will.

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Each of the 50 states can choose a governor

31 Republicans, and 19 Democrats

Each of the 50 states can elect 2 senators

52 GOP 48 Democrats

And each of the 435 congressional districts they choose Republican or Democrat

242 - 193 , ok, a little gerrymander here, but not state houses or senate

The American people clearly prefer Republicans over Democrats

Also, thousands of local and state officials have turned republican since 2010.
The great Rush Limbaugh wrote a beautiful piece about it today.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/20...ith_the_losers
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You missed the point, build the wall was a metaphor for secure the border to prevent uncontrolled immigration and truckloads of illegal drugs coming in and killing people

Why would anybody be against that


He will build the wall and the illegals will go. Bring back jobs for americans. Bring back jobs to our inner cities. the african american community is suffering and the system is rigged against them. we're gonna bring back our factories and frack baby frack. will create millions of wonderful jobs for the lower and middle class especially. our lower class is a mess and our poverty rates are higher since they've been since the depression.
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Listen, Obama's half-brother Malik is already getting the country organized for the wall building. Click image for larger version

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(His twitter account is pure gold. Big Trump supporter. Barack treated his fam side poorly)


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Looking forward to first lady
Melania

So glad we won't have first gentleman Bill
lock him up .
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He will build the wall
the largest professional civil engineering guild in north america has already promised that any engineering firm that designs this wall will be immediately discredited due to ethical concerns.

you can't get work, at all, without being accredited, because it's illegal to hire an unapproved engineering firm. it's especially illegal for the united states federal government to hire an unlicensed engineering firm for a federally funded project.

the only firms that are large enough to properly design and execute something of this scale (a 70-100 foot along a two thousand foot mile border in some of the most inaccessible areas of the country, requiring the construction of entire cities from scratch in the middle of the desert to house and support the workers) are in the top five to ten civil engineering firms on earth.

none of those firms are going to risk their accreditation, and by extension their entire businesses, on building this wall that is impossible to build, because:

- to build it would require at a minimum (ie for the wall itself, not counting worker cities or roads) the entire concrete output of the united states for one entire year to be redirected to this project, which would create an acute shortage of concrete for nearly every single building project in america for at least one year. surely that will do wonders for the economy.

- trump has eight years starting in january to, from scratch, design this wall, go through every legal hoop blocking construction (there are reservations this thing would go through - see standing rock), including an inevitable SCOTUS challenge, and then build literally two thousand miles of this damn thing in the middle of nowhere. the federal government can barely build a park or an office building in eight years, so a project of this magnitude is going to require a literal lifetime of staunch republican wall supporters.

- "the israeli wall!" which is at it max planned length 25% of the length of the us-mexico border, never more than a few miles away from a major city (LOLOLOLOL), and still is only barely halfway finished after 15 years?

so, all that being said, what makes you so sure this wall is going up, ever, at all?
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Trump may have said some naughty non PC things. But my god, we finally have a fresh set of eyes that are not bought and paid for by lobbyists.

Congress is ready to drop that tax plan. Rates across the board for all Americans. Half of all citizens will pay no fed income tax. Closes hedge fund loopholes as the main constraint.

Repatriate the offshore profits of corporations at 10%. Government takes in 500 billion at least from that.
Corporate rate drop to 15% and German companies start opening plants in Pennsylvania and Ohio. The US becomes a global tax haven overnight.

The past 25 years of our government has been about control, now we break free. Start making a profit. Trump wants an infrastructure bill and the Dems eat that shit up. Healthy government spending. Not a failed stimulus meant to prop up state government union funds. That was the shovel ready horseshit that gave birth to the tea party.


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the largest professional civil engineering guild in north america has already promised that any engineering firm that designs this wall will be immediately discredited due to ethical concerns.

you can't get work, at all, without being accredited, because it's illegal to hire an unapproved engineering firm. it's especially illegal for the united states federal government to hire an unlicensed engineering firm for a federally funded project.

the only firms that are large enough to properly design and execute something of this scale (a 70-100 foot along a two thousand foot mile border in some of the most inaccessible areas of the country, requiring the construction of entire cities from scratch in the middle of the desert to house and support the workers) are in the top five to ten civil engineering firms on earth.

none of those firms are going to risk their accreditation, and by extension their entire businesses, on building this wall that is impossible to build, because:

- to build it would require at a minimum (ie for the wall itself, not counting worker cities or roads) the entire concrete output of the united states for one entire year to be redirected to this project, which would create an acute shortage of concrete for nearly every single building project in america for at least one year. surely that will do wonders for the economy.

- trump has eight years starting in january to, from scratch, design this wall, go through every legal hoop blocking construction (there are reservations this thing would go through - see standing rock), including an inevitable SCOTUS challenge, and then build literally two thousand miles of this damn thing in the middle of nowhere. the federal government can barely build a park or an office building in eight years, so a project of this magnitude is going to require a literal lifetime of staunch republican wall supporters.

- "the israeli wall!" which is at it max planned length 25% of the length of the us-mexico border, never more than a few miles away from a major city (LOLOLOLOL), and still is only barely halfway finished after 15 years?

so, all that being said, what makes you so sure this wall is going up, ever, at all?
But but but ... muh border wall! /bobsaget
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DaveC - The Manhattan project took 3 years. We got to the moon in ten.

The red tape you talk about exists because of government. Trump can take a big pair of scissors to the system. Lawsuits and unfriendly judges might slow him down.

The wall can take many forms along the border. It already exists in populated crossing points. Digital, Aerial, Seismic technology. A minimal physical barrier is totally feasible with strong points in key areas.


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You missed the point, build the wall was a metaphor for secure the border to prevent uncontrolled immigration and truckloads of illegal drugs coming in and killing people

Why would anybody be against that
No one would be against that. Only problem is that so far efforts more concrete than a metaphorical wall have not seemed to work. So why the metaphorical wall would work is beyond me.


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The US becomes a global tax haven overnight.
No it won't.
BEPS has been introduced to make sure Companies pay their taxes in the countries where they create their profits. It would only make sense to move production facilities to the US if labour is a lot cheaper than China or the production process a lot more efficient than Germany.
You might not have heard of BEPS though. Neither has Trump probably.
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