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Old 07-22-2013, 09:32 PM   #1001
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Two weeks ago someone from the neighborhood watch was out when a loud BANG went off. A guy was walking around in the neighborhood who wasn't from around here, and the neighborhood watch guy called out to him and questioned him. A car sped up and the guy got in and drove away. I don't think our neighborhood watch guy was wrong for questioning somebody who was lurking in the shadows in the aftermath of a loud gunshot-like sound.

Sometimes lurkers are enough for people to be suspicious -- especially people who are members of a neighborhood watch. And if you're in an area with a high crime rate...

Or to put it another way -- was wearing a hoodie an automatic sign that TM was black?
Do any of your neighborhood watch folks follow people around and not call out to them and ask what they are doing while being armed?
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How so? Martin had "disappeared" for several minutes - even though his home was only about 30 seconds from the the place he was last scene. Zimmerman went into the general direction looking for a street sign to give the dispatcher the exact location of where he last saw Martin - when the dispatcher told Zimmerman he shouldn't follow - he turned back around toward his truck to meet the police (which he told the dispatcher he was doing). He was on his way back toward his truck that Martin "appeared" and the fight occurred.

Since he was less than 30 seconds from his home, and Zimmerman was well behind him at this point (and still in the truck) it is obvious Martin decided not to go home, but remain near the "T-section" for several minutes until Zimmerman walked through the area to the street - then came back through the area toward his truck.

Whether Martin was hiding can't be proven - but it's fact based on the phone records of Zimmerman and Martin that Martin remained in the "T-section" area for almost 4 minutes instead of simply going home (if he was truly afraid for his life - he already had Zimmerman beaten on the the path home). This just adds yet more weight the self-defense claim.
Waiting for him to "catch up to him" implies following, which isn't matching up with your understanding of the story. I'm also very confused by some of your facts. Who cares about "30 seconds from his home"?

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and Zimmerman was well behind him at this point (and still in the truck) it is obvious Martin decided not to go home, but remain near the "T-section" for several minutes until Zimmerman walked through the area to the street - then came back through the area toward his truck.
Was he still in the truck, or coming back towards the truck?
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:56 PM   #1003
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In which way? How can we hold someone accountable if they are not guilty of committing a crime as they are written today? Yes, we can (and should) use this case to rewrite some of these laws around self-defense and being armed in a public place, but that was not the job of this jury. Their only job was to come up with a verdict based on current, not hypothetical, law.

Many great points here, Sean. Is it possible the media initially made the mistake of setting this trial up as such an example? A jury can't acquit/convict anyone based on emotion and/or historical baggage - they must come to a verdict based on evidence and knowledge of the law.
Let me ask you a question, AEON. What would you be saying if the jury had come back with a guilty verdict?
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That's far too much weight to put into a case that was in no way going to be a slam dunk. This wasn't To Kill a Mockingbird, where the jury gave a guilty verdict against to a black man despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
You know what would really support your point of view? Show me a recent case where a white man was accused of killing a black man and was convicted. Or better yet, a case besides the OJ Exception where a black man was accused of killing a white person but was acquitted.
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to have him be the sacrificial lamb for all the prior injustice against blacks.
Ummm, no. It's the current injustice against this specific young man.
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