Trayvon Martin's murderer George Zimmerman is still a free man - Page 14 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-11-2012, 02:46 PM   #261
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 AM
Your devil's advocate shit-stirring is often very irritating, deep.

On another note, I wonder if Zimmerman thinks he wasn't even going to be charged eventually? I mean, he may still come out the other side declared to be innocent, but what the hell would possess him to apparently ignore his lawyers and put up a website to make all sorts of statements?

Was he that convinced that he wouldn't even be charged, or is he just that much of a bonehead?
__________________

corianderstem is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 02:49 PM   #262
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
I listened to a lot of A M radio today, those arguments are being articulated by a large segment of the public,
I assume many believe they are reasonable and fair opinions.
__________________

deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 02:54 PM   #263
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 AM
Yes, and it's annoying when you state them here without any context as if you are the one spouting/believing those statements.

I know it's your "thing," just your posting style or whatever, but it's kind of obnoxious.

I ignore it most of the time, but sometimes I feel so moved to say something about it.

So now you can assume I'll shut up about it for at least a few months.
corianderstem is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 02:55 PM   #264
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
Ok, I could have began with, A lot of people are saying,

I think arguments should stand (or fall) on their own merits.

What I think?

I think Mr Zimmerman has earned the right to spend 10- 20 years in jail.

But, the trial will not be about justice, only about what will be allowed to be considered 'evidence' and 'proven beyond a reasonable doubt'.
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 03:06 PM   #265
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
Zimmerman's attorneys are terrible.
A lot of the things they are saying should fall under 'client privilege'

when they spoke to him last
where he is, what his state of mind may be like,
he will not return our calls, etc., etc

The more professional thing to do
would be to release a written statement
As of this date we are no longer council for Mr Zimmerman.
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 03:56 PM   #266
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
The Real George Zimmerman

I have refreshed this site a few times

it was at 300 counts about 5 minutes ago

now it is over 1400

this time tomorrow 100,000 ? 200,000

I wonder what the paypal account will grow to?
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 03:58 PM   #267
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 AM
My apologies if I've misjudged your posts; to me they often come across as deliberately shit-stirring at worst, playing devil's advocate at best, but maybe that's not their intent.

Us regulars are used to it, but when it happens, I just cringe, waiting for someone not-so-regular to take it at face value.
corianderstem is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 04:00 PM   #268
Blue Crack Distributor
 
bono_212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 83,583
Local Time: 12:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deep View Post
The Real George Zimmerman

I have refreshed this site a few times

it was at 300 counts about 5 minutes ago

now it is over 1400

this time tomorrow 100,000 ? 200,000

I wonder what the paypal account will grow to?
Counter must not work, cause it's at 300 something for me right now.
__________________
bono_212 is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 04:03 PM   #269
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
right,

it looks like it resets at 2000?

interesting, it seemed low for all the news coverage

I am wondering if there is a reason, but the whole site is schetchy



edit to add

it just reset at about 700

it is being kept artifically low? would this make someone more inclinded to donate?

I think more so than if it had 500,000 hits
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 04:05 PM   #270
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by corianderstem View Post
My apologies if I've misjudged your posts; to me they often come across as deliberately shit-stirring at worst, playing devil's advocate at best, but maybe that's not their intent.

Us regulars are used to it, but when it happens, I just cringe, waiting for someone not-so-regular to take it at face value.
please, no worries

and I never really need apologies, even when people call me mean names, which you never have
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 04:06 PM   #271
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 AM
corianderstem is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:14 PM   #272
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 08:12 AM
Second-degree murder, wow. More than what the original homicide investigator had been pressing for.
__________________
yolland [at] interference.com


μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης
yolland is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 05:27 PM   #273
Blue Crack Addict
 
deep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: A far distance down.
Posts: 28,601
Local Time: 11:12 PM
Trayvon Martin's [I]accused[/I] murderer George Zimmerman is no longer a free man

I thought Prosecutor Corey did a very good job, she took a lot of questions.
She was unflappable.


The charges seem right to me.
Zimmerman brought this upon himself.
deep is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:05 PM   #274
ONE
love, blood, life
 
Jive Turkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,646
Local Time: 03:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by deep View Post
Ok, I could have began with, A lot of people are saying,

I think arguments should stand (or fall) on their own merits.
Since when is conversing in the style you do considered appropriate? Do you walk around in real life doing the same thing? It's antisocial and borderline sociopathic.
Jive Turkey is offline  
Old 04-11-2012, 06:24 PM   #275
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 20,715
Local Time: 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yolland View Post
Second-degree murder, wow. More than what the original homicide investigator had been pressing for.
Yeah, that's a pretty serious charge, definitely. But an appropriate one, I think.

I'm glad he's been charged.
Moonlit_Angel is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 01:48 AM   #276
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 08:12 AM
Most lawyers I know were betting on manslaughter charges, based on the picture the fragmentary evidence leaked to the press appeared to paint of the incident. Of course, Corey had access to all kinds of info they didn't; she interviewed all the eyewitnesses, the girlfriend, had forensic audio analysis of the 911 calls, she would've seen the coroner's report as well as any documentation of Zimmerman's injuries at the time, etc.

Zimmerman's new lawyer has said he'll claim 'Stand Your Ground,' so that will entitle him to an evidentiary hearing, at which the judge could still opt to dismiss the charges rather than letting the case proceed to trial.




The way the coverage of this case has brought the rats out of the woodwork has really been something...I'm accustomed to semi-literate boneheads (from all parts of the spectrum), laughably inept concern trolls, and so forth popping up in comments sections of even relatively 'highbrow' publications, but I'm not used to seeing Stormfront-type, unabashedly crude racists there in the way they have been the last couple weeks.
__________________
yolland [at] interference.com


μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης
yolland is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 06:20 AM   #277
Galeonbroad
 
Galeongirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Schoo Fishtank
Posts: 70,778
Local Time: 09:12 AM
I'm really glad he's finally caught. This has taken way too long already.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GraceRyan View Post
And if U2 EVER did Hawkmoon live....and the version from the Lovetown Tour, my uterus would leave my body and fling itself at Bono - for realz.
Don't worry baby, it's gonna be all right. Uncertainty can be a guiding light...
Galeongirl is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 07:34 AM   #278
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 03:12 AM
I thought it would be manslaughter. There better be plenty of evidence that is not public knowledge yet, or this is overcharged and they'll never get a conviction.
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:03 AM   #279
Blue Crack Addict
 
Liesje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house
Posts: 19,563
Local Time: 03:12 AM
I'm not really understanding the "stand your ground" defense. I thought that applied more towards your own home/property? For example, being in Michigan, if my home is invaded I am technically allowed to use more force than is used on me (ie, I don't have to wait for the invader to attack me before using a weapon or sending my dog). But Zimmerman was out following Martin around and was not at his home/property, no? I've tried to stay out of this one and avoid all the speculation. Maybe I understand the "castle law" wrong...?
Liesje is offline  
Old 04-12-2012, 09:10 AM   #280
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 03:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
I'm not really understanding the "stand your ground" defense. I thought that applied more towards your own home/property? For example, being in Michigan, if my home is invaded I am technically allowed to use more force than is used on me (ie, I don't have to wait for the invader to attack me before using a weapon or sending my dog). But Zimmerman was out following Martin around and was not at his home/property, no? I've tried to stay out of this one and avoid all the speculation. Maybe I understand the "castle law" wrong...?
Stand your ground is no duty to retreat in any location, can be a public place. Castle is just the home. I looked it up myself because I was confused about it too.
__________________

MrsSpringsteen is offline  
 

Tags
george zimmerman, stand your ground, trayvon martin

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×