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Old 03-29-2012, 09:11 AM   #181
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I agree completely.
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:58 AM   #182
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I truly don't get why so many people are up at arms about the specifics of how Zimmerman self-identifies racially, or how the police or whoever else identify him.
I think it has more to do with people being sick of the media going to lengths to sensationalize stories by massaging the facts.
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I think it has more to do with people being sick of the media going to lengths to sensationalize stories by massaging the facts.
This times a thousand.

When was the last time you heard somebody called a white Hispanic? Do they call Obama a white African American? He's just as white as Zimmerman...

Of course not... because that's stupid.

The media is only saying it ti further sensationalise the case. Its the same reason why they keep referring to the middle income apartment complex as a pristine gated community. It sounds more affluent.

The media just sickens me.
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That's exactly what the realtors for the complex call it, a "gated community"; you can Google it. In Florida it's common to use that term to describe similarly middle-income communities.

Not everyone considers Hispanic a racial category. It's a more ambiguous term than "black" or "white." US understandings of "race" don't always map well onto the way Central and South Americans identify themselves.

I don't see either of these media labels as "sensational" but, whatev, it's a sideshow ultimately.
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i think it has to do with an unstable individual, who may or may not be racist, who a) shouldn't have a gun, and b) shouldn't be on any sort of neighborhood watch.
Agreed. But it's not 100% about the guns. Even though I'm firmly opposed, it still stands that any sane person who'd have a gun(Irony?) wouldn't have chased this guy and shot him. I reckon if Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he'd probably have carried a knife. So either way, it's a lunatic with a weapon that should've not been given any sort of authority.

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What court of law? He hasn't been arrested for anything. That's the whole point.
True. Good point. I was just thinking ahead I guess. Or is he still not arrested, even after the international outrage over it?
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don't know if anyone has looked at Drudge, but it's almost as if he's instigating racial conflict by blaming the victim.

it's disgusting.
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You mean the "Kill Zimmerman Twitter/FB" stuff?

I blame Obama. If he'd only said "No comment" when asked about the case, then NO ONE would see this shooting and the lack of an arrest as having ANY racial component whatsoever.

Probably half those accounts are pure trolling with nothing else behind them.
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don't know if anyone has looked at Drudge, but it's almost as if he's instigating racial conflict by blaming the victim.

it's disgusting.



not sure why i said "almost as if."

this is what Drudge is doing. but not, of course, because Obama's president or anything.

these are his leading headlines:

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George Zimmerman's father speaks for first time...
Says Trayvon threatened to kill his son...
'You're going to die tonight'...
ABCNEWS: Police video shows no blood...
Large gash on back of head?
POLICE REPORT: Bleeding from nose, head...
Network names 13-year-old witness...
'Plzz shoot da #mf dat lied 2 u!'
@KILLZIMMERMAN TWITTER feed...
Now Roseanne Barr tweets home address of parents!
Spike 'Settles' After Screw Up...



PARENTS OF MURDERED WHITE STUDENTS SLAM OBAMA FOR SILENCE
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don't know if anyone has looked at Drudge
I find the lack of web design extremely offensive. What is that geocities bullshit?
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Well, now they know how the families of non-white people feel when their relative goes missing and Nancy Grace doesn't start foaming at the mouth over them.
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That account of what Trayvon supposedly said to Zimmerman sounds like a bad movie.

"Homie?" "You got me?" Seriously. Someone needs to bone up on their street slang.

It's interesting to think about what the responses might have been had the races been reversed. If it was a 17 year old white kid and overzealous black neighborhood watch guy (think Philip for those Survivor fans out there). Or if both had been black, or both white.

I can't help feeling that the whole incident either wouldn't have happened at all in the above scenarios or wouldn't have received the same media and public scrutiny. This particular pairing definitely struck a national nerve.
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oops

strange things going on when trying to post this...
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Trayvon's mother said in People Magazine that she doesn't see this as a black/white issue, but a right/wrong issue.

George Zimmerman's brother was on Piers Morgan last night and said that George has a broken nose and that to him his nose looks swollen in the video. I have never had a broken nose but I've seen them happen and there's usually lots of blood. I know that things can be done to stop the blood flow but there should be lots of blood on the clothes he was wearing and on his person, blood that was dried maybe by that time? If the police let him wear those clothes home (which they shouldn't have) then all that evidence is lost. His brother also claims that he has injuries that take "weeks" to show up that wouldn't be evident at the time.

I don't get someone who has had their head bashed into a sidewalk whose head looks like that hours later, even if they've been treated by a medic. Especially since he appears to be to have a buzz cut type haircut. His brother says the video is "grainy", that's not my definition of grainy. You could still see injuries and a bashed head if they were there, I think. Even if he'd already been treated by medics there's be evidence of that treatment, if the injuries were consistent with his version of events.
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ETA--hmm, ok, this page wasn't loading for me using the forum default pagination (at the 30 posts per page setting I could see it fine), but now that I've posted, the thread seems okay under all settings to me.

Um, can everyone read this?
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Yes, I see it.

Yesterday when I caught the bus home, there was a woman standing at the bus stop with a sign around her neck that said "Justice for Trayvon Martin."

As I passed, I caught her eye and just nodded at her in agreement. She said "thank you" with apparent appreciation, so I wonder if few people had bothered to acknowledge her.

(That has nothing to do with anything, but I just felt like sharing.)
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George Zimmerman was fired from his job as an under-the-table security guard for “being too aggressive,” a former co-worker told the Daily News. Zimmerman, at the center of a firestorm for shooting an unarmed black teenager a month ago, worked for two different agencies providing security to illegal house parties between 2001 and 2005, the former co-worker said.

“Usually he was just a cool guy. He liked to drink and hang with the women like the rest of us,” he said. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When the dude snapped, he snapped.” The source said Zimmerman, who made between $50 and $100 a night, was let go in 2005. “He had a temper and he became a liability,” the man said. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,” he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”

The year 2005 was a bad one for Zimmerman: he was arrested for fighting with a cop trying to arrest his friend for underage drinking, and he and his ex-fiancée took out protective orders against each other.

The former co-worker, who is no longer in touch with Zimmerman, said he was shocked to hear what happened Feb. 26 in a gated community in Sanford, FL. “He definitely loved being in charge. He loved the power. Still, I could never see him killing someone. Never,” he said.
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Yes, I see it.

Yesterday when I caught the bus home, there was a woman standing at the bus stop with a sign around her neck that said "Justice for Trayvon Martin."

As I passed, I caught her eye and just nodded at her in agreement. She said "thank you" with apparent appreciation, so I wonder if few people had bothered to acknowledge her.

(That has nothing to do with anything, but I just felt like sharing.)
Cool . She's got my support, too.

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The former co-worker, who is no longer in touch with Zimmerman, said he was shocked to hear what happened Feb. 26 in a gated community in Sanford, FL. “He definitely loved being in charge. He loved the power. Still, I could never see him killing someone. Never,” he said.
Really? 'Cause after reading this...

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“It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.”
...I wouldn't put it past him. How did this not come off as a massive warning sign?
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