Torture/Waterboarding: Discussion/Debate Thread

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by onebloodonelife


He only wanted to be President, obviously, that doesn't require knowing your history.

Well, when our current president thinks we have an "administrative" branch, I guess you're right.

[onebloodonelife]

Originally posted by U2isthebest


Well, when our current president thinks we have an "administrative" branch, I guess you're right.

So sad, really...

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by onebloodonelife


So sad, really...

I happen to have a Bushisms desk calendar, and January 23rd's was "You see, the Senate wants to take away some of the powers of the administrative branch." -Washington D.C. ;September 19, 2002.

[No spoken words]

Originally posted by onebloodonelife


So sad, really...

It left sad in the dust years ago.

To me, it's an endless source of bewilderment and frustration.....and some modicum of embarrassment as well.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by No spoken words


It left sad in the dust years ago.

To me, it's an endless source of bewilderment and frustration.....and some modicum of embarrassment as well.

I feel a deep sense of shame and incredulous wonder at how we could've possibly allowed this man to become president.

[No spoken words]

Originally posted by U2isthebest



I feel a deep sense of shame and incredulous wonder at how we could've possibly allowed this man to become president.

I felt it when he was elected the first time, but, the jury was at least still out.....but his re-election is a dark and confusing chapter in this country's history.

I honestly avoid talking about it for the most part, because I get too riled up. It's that frustrating to me.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by No spoken words


I felt it when he was elected the first time, but, the jury was at least still out.....but his re-election is a dark and confusing chapter in this country's history.

I honestly avoid talking about it for the most part, because I get too riled up. It's that frustrating to me.

I do too. I was only 12 during the 2000 election, but even I could see that something very wrong and very dishonest was going on in that Florida debacle.

[No spoken words]

Originally posted by U2isthebest


I do too. I was only 12 during the 2000 election, but even I could see that something very wrong and very dishonest was going on in that Florida debacle.

Well, I just sensed a man with no intellectual curiosity, and no world view, from a dynastic family, trying to become President. I still cannot ever get past the fact that a man who had never left this fucking country was elected President. And I know that's a myopic thing, there are myriad reasons to elect someone and global traveler is not high on the list....but I felt it spoke volumes about the man, and still do. Fuck.

The whole Florida circus is a thread unto itself.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by No spoken words


Well, I just sensed a man with no intellectual curiosity, and no world view, from a dynastic family, trying to become President. I still cannot ever get past the fact that a man who had never left this fucking country was elected President. And I know that's a myopic thing, there are myriad reasons to elect someone and global traveler is not high on the list....but I felt it spoke volumes about the man, and still do. Fuck.

The whole Florida circus is a thread unto itself.

He did tell the L.A. Times on the campaign trail in 2000 that he doesn't believe in being analytical. I believe he followed that with, "I don't really think about myself much...about why I do things." When I read that, I knew why we're screwed.

[No spoken words]

It's hard to blame him, solely, though. He had to be fucking elected. People had to look at him and say "That man should lead this country". How the fuck did that happen the 2nd time????

I need to relax.

[No spoken words]

And lest I forget...

"The development of a child is enhanced by having a mother and father. Such a family is the ideal for the future of the child and for the strength of a nation. I wonder how it is that unelected judges, like some in my state of Massachusetts, are so unaware of this reality, so oblivious to the millennia of recorded history. It is time for the people of America to fortify marriage through Constitutional amendment, so that liberal judges cannot continue to attack it.

"Europe is facing a demographic disaster. That is the inevitable product of weakened faith in the Creator, failed families, disrespect for the sanctity of human life and eroded morality."

This is scary shit to me.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by No spoken words
And lest I forget...

"The development of a child is enhanced by having a mother and father. Such a family is the ideal for the future of the child and for the strength of a nation. I wonder how it is that unelected judges, like some in my state of Massachusetts, are so unaware of this reality, so oblivious to the millennia of recorded history. It is time for the people of America to fortify marriage through Constitutional amendment, so that liberal judges cannot continue to attack it.

"Europe is facing a demographic disaster. That is the inevitable product of weakened faith in the Creator, failed families, disrespect for the sanctity of human life and eroded morality."

This is scary shit to me.

I loved how he said a Democratic president would turn our country into "the France of the 21st century". To quote John Stewart, "That's funny, I thought France was the France of the 21st century." Apparently, Mitt's up there with George when it comes to intellect.

[onebloodonelife]

Originally posted by U2isthebest


I happen to have a Bushisms desk calendar, and January 23rd's was "You see, the Senate wants to take away some of the powers of the administrative branch." -Washington D.C. ;September 19, 2002.

Executive, executive, executive. How hard is that?

(Apparently, extremely difficult for him.)

I used to have one of those calendars too, one of my favorite birthday gifts.

[onebloodonelife]

Originally posted by No spoken words


It left sad in the dust years ago.

To me, it's an endless source of bewilderment and frustration.....and some modicum of embarrassment as well.

So true. I was in 6th grade the first time around, and I thought there was something off about Florida. Then, when 2004 came around, I stayed up all night listening to the returns, and when they called Ohio for Bush, I started crying. I couldn't believe that our country could be that blind to what he had done and elect him to another term.

Like you, I try not to think about the fact that he's still in office, and I focus on the upcoming election as a source of relief from his madness.

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by onebloodonelife



Executive, executive, executive. How hard is that?

(Apparently, extremely difficult for him.)

I used to have one of those calendars too, one of my favorite birthday gifts.

I love it. It also has a countdown until January 20, 2009.

[kellyahern]

Originally posted by U2isthebest


I loved how he said a Democratic president would turn our country into "the France of the 21st century". To quote John Stewart, "That's funny, I thought France was the France of the 21st century." Apparently, Mitt's up there with George when it comes to intellect.

Jon Stewart's response to Mitt's speech was great.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherl...l_video=156317

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by kellyahern


Jon Stewart's response to Mitt's speech was great.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherl...l_video=156317

I loved it! I actually posted it in the Colbert thread in Zoo Station (because I couldn't search for the Daily Show thread). It's one of the best things I've seen on there in a long time.

[diamond]

Jon Stewart is a lame brain.


dbs

[U2isthebest]

Originally posted by diamond
Jon Stewart is a lame brain.


dbs

Really? I think George Bush is. Opinion, opinions.

[Diemen]

Originally posted by diamond
Jon Stewart is a lame brain.


dbs

No, that would be Mitt Romney's speechwriter. That really is one of the worst political speeches I've seen in years.