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The Fly
Join Date: Jan 2001
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I know the seatbelt issue is particularly sensitive for me right now. Two days before Christmas, a friend of mine was on his way home for the holidays....was the only one not wearing a seatbelt....due to running off the road and then overcorrecting, he was thrown from the car and is now in a coma (he was not driving). He was the only one injured. What could have been just a "scare" is now a borderline tragedy.
__________________Besides, just because you are in a low speed zone does not mean everyone is obeying the limit, or stop signs, or lane boundaries, etc. I personally never used to wear my seatbelt. My boyfriend made me a deal: he would stop smoking if I would wear my seatbelt. I've seen too much since then to ever go back...even if only going to Taco Bell down the street, ya know? ------------------ "Love is a verb..." enterangell@cs.com |
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I serve MacPhisto
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I serve MacPhisto
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I have no children. I have great medical coverage with my great job. I paid the fine day after christmas, $35 cash and not pennies. I chose NOT to get a lawyer, i already have one for something else and its not worth it for something this trivial. I posted this angrily 30 minutes after getting the damn ticket, which is my 3rd this year. I got the ticket about 3 houses down from the driveway of my friend Dennis (nice respectable house/neighborhood) so I really could have just 'forgotten' as far as he knows or could have just been putting it on as I was driving away. How did the cop know I didn't have one on, I have 20/20 vision and I can't tell through tinted glass? I drive a nice car, wasn't speeding or breaking any other law, and those of you who met me would testify to the fact that I don't have a rough or criminal appearance? I have no problem with seatbelts. I wear seatbelts. I do have problems with cops in norman oklahoma who have nothing better to do then harass good citizens like they are famous for (i could tell many many stories) I have a problem with the city making the fine/court appearance 2 weeks from the citation date, during christmas??? Thats all ------------------ U2Oklahoma& Z - E D G E ************************* gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO |
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#44 |
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2001
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Whoa!!! Don't mess w/ an angry z edge!!
![]() But you really should wear that seatbelt-we all don't want anything to happen to you. ![]() *runs scared from the angry side of z edge* ![]() |
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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Whether u have children is irrelevant. I don't either but enforcing a law that says we must wear them is beneficial to children because of idiot parents out there who wouldn't make their kids wear them otherwise.
I'm sorry you got a fine z edge but I still don't see an argument against it. Now go hose yourself down under the sprinkler or I'll be forced to take away your Z from you again ![]() ------------------ Slane/Lon tour pics |
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War Child
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Z Edge..
I think most of all will agree that we just want everyone here as safe as possible. Most accidents do happen within two miles of your home. It's not your driving that concerns us, but the ass-wipe morons who drive like bats out of hell, constantly making the roads unsafe for us law abiding citizens..Not to mention all the children whose little lives are jeopardized daily by these morons. So stay safe, cause we love ya.. ![]() |
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![]() Actually, I agree that BY ALL MEANS children MUST wear seatbelts. I know that sounds like a double-standard, but kids are not mature enough to make THAT decision on their own IMO, also they are too precious and small to risk any harm. Actually I feel everyone should wear them, my argument was against the LAW and basically the nature of my situation and the cops here. ------------------ U2Oklahoma& Z - E D G E ************************* gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO gottaGO |
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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yeah and learn how to quote in one post will ya, ya big ass wipe moron????
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ONE
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When will law enforcement understand that a U2 concert may make us seem "Intoxicated" or "Elevated", but it is legal to drive "under the Influence of a U2 concert"! |
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I serve MacPhisto
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I was drunk on the whole concert and Gwenness and I WAS elevated, PLEBA style. Law-dogs just don't understand!
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Babyface
Join Date: Jan 2001
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My father-in-law just got a seatbelt ticket and it is gonna cost him 100.00, ouch, he is a 68 year old man and was speeding 5 miles over, but the cop said no speeding ticket, just seat belt ticket (the speeding ticket would have only cost 50.00) Go figure!! I always wear mine, this sounds sad, but my hubby only wears his because our lawyer told him that should he be killed not wearing it, the kids and I would get nothing and that included any of his life insurance policy. Sad thought, but so damn true.
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Refugee
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Oki, I find this discussion kind of stupid. We all know why we should wear seatbelts and breaking that law can cost you, in both money and more valuable things.
To give you some perspective to this. A few weeks ago I had two cars but I had only paid for one parkingspace outside my house. (I hire one space on the parkinglot and pay per month on my rent for my apartment) There are several other spaces you can hire but at the moment wasn't rented and never used. So I "borrowed" one space next to my other car til I was gonna get rid of one of the cars, we are talking about a week. One morning I had got a $50 fine for using a rentable, not rented space. Now we are talking about stupid fines, ok?? Not hurting anyone or anything, there are really not one single argument that can give sense to this. So, please calm down and be happy you didn't lost your life instead of $35 for not wearing a seatbelt. ------------------ "U2 on it´s own is a very interesting group and all. But U2 with it´s audience is a culture" - Bono http://community.webshots.com/user/misszooropa Pictures from Copenhagen (shirtless ones), London and Dublin, Slane. |
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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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Canada's healthcare is "free" - via taxes. The tax rate in Canada is around 50%. I would rather be as safe as I can and pay for my own illnesses, than have a good chunk of my annual salary pay for OTHER people's illnesses. |
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War Child
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: West Coast babyeee
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no healthcare is free, canada does it by charging more taxes, the US does it by making you get health insurance, or pay an excessive bill.
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#58 |
Refugee
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Angell, how is your friend doing?
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New Yorker
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It is true that z edge was NOT drunk the night of the concert... perhaps a bit hungover (correct me if I'm wrong) not to mention elevated PLEBA-style. All of these factors could have thrown the lil' officer off (btw I didn't realize he insisted you were drunk...sheeesh...)
On the subject of seat-belt laws. I have gotten to know multiple cops on the city/state level through my job, because officers get free coffee at CC's. It is a great thing, because they tell me that if they ever pull me off to the side of the road they will only let me off with a warning (sign of corruption in the system? Oh well I'm not complaining... ![]() I do however highly recommend the use of a seatbelt. An accident I was involved in two years ago could have been much worse if the other party had not been wearing their seatbelt. I was driving down the road minding my business and they turn into me, knocking me into oncoming traffic (luckily no harm) it was rather high impact. I was listening to 'Daddy's Gonna Pay For Your Crashed Car' at the moment (freaky) anyway the other driver had just put on his seatbelt, he told me he NEVER wears his seatbelt but for some odd reason he did put it on at the stop sign just before turning into me. There's my bit of personal experience. I have been ticketed twice in my life now, both for speeding, once for going 74 in a 55 (speed had just changed) and another for going 9 miles over in a school zone, which was a whopping $170 (the school zone was new, and there were no flashing lights, and I had gotten off of school at noon that day, which threw me off) but, if I had tried to explain this to the cop at the time, I am sure it would have mattered very little ![]() |
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ONE
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For instance, I live in the UK and our healthcare is provided through the National Health Service (NHS) and is free to everyone. Our starting rate of taxation is 10%, the basic rate is 22% and the highest rate is 40%. Personally I'm happy to pay taxes if it guarantees that nobody will be left in a situation where they can't see a doctor when they're sick. The NHS is certainly far from perfect, but I'd take that any day over a system which leaves millions of people with no access to healthcare. |
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