To HELL with Seatbelt Laws!!!!! - Page 2

TylerDurden · 12-14-2001, 06:40 PM

What are the seatbelt laws in the US? I guess it's different state by state. As long as I've been alive it's been law that you have to wear a belt here. But you get so used to it that without thinking it's on by the end of the driveway, and no-one ever gets fined for not, unless you are doing something stupid to attract the attention.

CannibalisticArtist · 12-14-2001, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kobayashi:
i am sorry for your cousin and am glad you realize. unfortunately such a law is neccessary within society, though it may not be applicable in your mind.

i do relise that it's a good thing, just the way they inforce it what i don't appreciate. they should keep the law, show the risks on tv just like they do with cigs, but not charge the people when they break it.
a simple reminder is better and it even makes people less hostile towards it. force doesn't always work.
it's only neccessary in a society that is too dumb to relise the consequences. we are not children. by all means strap your child in and make that a seperate law and fine people for not doing it.

[This message has been edited by CannibalisticArtist (edited 12-14-2001).]

Trash Can · 12-14-2001, 09:17 PM

Fine.
You want to risk death, why should I, the gov't, or anyone else have any say??
I agree with you there.
But please dont wreck and fly out of your windshield, and onto the highway where I could be passing by and run your already dead carcass over!
That would ruin MY day, not to mention make a mess on my car.

AND, would my insurance rates be affected??? With all these "freedom fighters" headbuttin' windshields left and right!??

I dont want to pay more because you died. That would bum me out.

Yeah, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt. I guess for the same reasons I would never drive with my eyes blindfolded and my hands tied behind my back... Its safer.

Simple.

This reply HAS been all "tongue in cheek", but.. I am serious about the insurance deal.

[This message has been edited by Trash Can (edited 12-14-2001).]

kobayashi · 12-14-2001, 09:34 PM

final response to this thread which was so lacking in common sense.

always wear you seat belt

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Lemonite · 12-14-2001, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by sulawesigirl4:
I've always wondered about this law. Seems to me that if you make the choice not to wear a seatbelt and then you get in an accident and hurt yourself, it was your life anyways and your choice. How does this fall under the jurisdiction of the government? I don't quite get it.

This is the same logic I gave the cop when I got a ticket at three AM for going 73 in a 55 zone... with not a car in sight...

Hrrumph...

DrTeeth · 12-14-2001, 10:21 PM

A seatbelt law is to protect the aidworkers from mental damage when the have to scrape your worthless ass off of the pavement. A seatbelt saved my life once and I�ve seen people who didn�t wear one end up in a puddle near the side of the road with their brains at the OTHER side of the road (I shit you not).

I guess this law is an attempt by the government to protect people who are too dumb to protect themselves.

But hey! If you want to be free, be free....

Trash Can · 12-14-2001, 10:58 PM

Speak it, Dr. Teeth! Speak it!
...You go boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

CannibalisticArtist · 12-14-2001, 11:15 PM

*lights one up*
amen to that! if it's the law, it must be right.

Johnny Swallow · 12-14-2001, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by z edge:
I will be paying them 3500 pennies!!!!!!

You are my hero.

U2Bama · 12-15-2001, 01:28 AM

z edge:

Have you tried that new Grilled Chicken Quesadilla at Taco Bell?

Most of you know how conservative and pseudo-libertarian I am, but let me propose this: If you are in a wreck and you are NOT wearing your seatbelt, insurance does NOT pay for your injuries. How does that sound?

~U2Alabama

Mirrorball Man · 12-15-2001, 02:44 AM

Z edge: Why don't you want to wear a seatbelt?

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**Diemen** · 12-15-2001, 04:02 AM

I'm sorry, but this "I don't wear it around town for comfort" excuse is really weak. So you're not going all that fast. Still, any impact would cause more bodily damage to you without your seatbelt than with it. A side impact at 25 miles an hour would probably at least throw you to the other side of the car without a seat belt. A rear impact would definitely throw you into the steering wheel. And that's not ruling out the chances of a drunk driver or a speeder hitting you. There are just WAY too many variables for you to make this claim of 'comfort' and expect it to hold up. Especially in Oklahoma. The vast majority of deaths from car accidents are from people who weren't wearing their seatbelts. Whether they were on the highway or just driving down a country road.

No offense to you, z edge, but this comfort thing is stupid. The law is there to protect lives. If you're too lazy to click a seatbelt into place, then yes, you will be fined (and really, it's not ALL that uncomfortable to have 2 little straps across your lap and chest). Breaking the law usually results in fines, anyway. The way you're arguing you might as well toss in speeding tickets as purely a way to increase revenues (which it partly is, but still). The law is very clear. Buckling up is the law. If you don't buckle up, you're breaking the law. If you get caught, don't act like it's some hidden injustice.

poptart2001 · 12-16-2001, 06:37 AM

I just dont understand it,why the hell would anyone want to risks their lifes for the sake of feeling a little "uncomfortable"
youve all seen the adverts showing the difference betweeen the impact on accidents without your seatbelts on,and anyone who dosent wear their seatbelts shouldnt be able to drive!!!!!!!!!!!
i know alot of you arguing that it your "choice"
but have you all got a suicide wish??????????

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a vampire or a victim it depends on whos around

Dont let the Bastards grind you down

cmb737 · 12-25-2001, 03:48 AM

Had my life saved by a seat belt 2 days ago. Thank God and it will be a much nicer Christmas since I am not in a hospital bed.

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Well the God I believe in isn't short of cash..Mister!

tiny dancer · 12-25-2001, 06:24 PM

I have known people in my life who were killed in auto accidents because of not wearing seatbels. How I wish they were still here.

SEATBELTS SAVES LIVES PERIOD!

bonovista · 12-26-2001, 12:23 AM

Unfortunately...NOT everyone carries extensive medical insurance, so if they were to get into a serious accident, where the hospital stay can get up to the thousands, it will be the tax payers who will end up flipping the bill.

Also, one of the main reasons we do have the law, is to protect children. If we wear our seatbelts, it shows our children that we care about our lives as well as their's.

My motto in life...

"It's better to lose a minute of your life, then your life in a minute.." It really only take less than a minute to strap yourself in.

And one important thing..There are laws we all don't like, but I myself have learned to accept them.

[This message has been edited by bonovista (edited 12-25-2001).]

senrab · 12-26-2001, 11:23 PM

Oh, I know, it's just so hard to take 2 seconds and put a seatbelt on. Sheesh....

sharky · 12-27-2001, 02:49 AM

All this argument about its your life and you're not hurting anyone isn't entirely true. When you get in an accident, your body becomes a human projectile. Most of the people that wear seat belts and are still hurt in car accidents tend to be hurt by other bodies in the car who were not wearing seat belts.

Plus, the government needs the money they collect from fines for not wearing belts to pay for all the hospital care those who don't wear belts, get in accidents and can't pay for their care.

zooropamanda · 12-29-2001, 02:58 AM

um hello

children

need i say more?
i actually dont get what the problem with wearing one is?

Nicstar U2 · 12-29-2001, 04:14 AM

h,mmmmmm........

12-14-2001, 06:40 PM	#21
TylerDurden War Child Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 940 Local Time: 02:20 PM	What are the seatbelt laws in the US? I guess it's different state by state. As long as I've been alive it's been law that you have to wear a belt here. But you get so used to it that without thinking it's on by the end of the driveway, and no-one ever gets fined for not, unless you are doing something stupid to attract the attention. __________________

12-29-2001, 04:14 AM	#40
Nicstar U2 Babyface Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Newcastle, NSW, Australia Posts: 1 Local Time: 02:20 PM	h,mmmmmm........ __________________

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12-14-2001, 09:17 PM	#23
Trash Can Acrobat Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 399 Local Time: 02:20 PM	Fine. You want to risk death, why should I, the gov't, or anyone else have any say?? I agree with you there. But please dont wreck and fly out of your windshield, and onto the highway where I could be passing by and run your already dead carcass over! That would ruin MY day, not to mention make a mess on my car. AND, would my insurance rates be affected??? With all these "freedom fighters" headbuttin' windshields left and right!?? I dont want to pay more because you died. That would bum me out. Yeah, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt. I guess for the same reasons I would never drive with my eyes blindfolded and my hands tied behind my back... Its safer. Simple. This reply HAS been all "tongue in cheek", but.. I am serious about the insurance deal. [This message has been edited by Trash Can (edited 12-14-2001).]

12-14-2001, 09:34 PM	#24
kobayashi Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: the ether Posts: 5,142 Local Time: 10:20 AM	final response to this thread which was so lacking in common sense. always wear you seat belt ------------------ against smileys

12-14-2001, 10:21 PM	#26
DrTeeth Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Q continuum Posts: 4,770 Local Time: 03:20 PM	A seatbelt law is to protect the aidworkers from mental damage when the have to scrape your worthless ass off of the pavement. A seatbelt saved my life once and I�ve seen people who didn�t wear one end up in a puddle near the side of the road with their brains at the OTHER side of the road (I shit you not). I guess this law is an attempt by the government to protect people who are too dumb to protect themselves. But hey! If you want to be free, be free....

12-14-2001, 10:58 PM	#27
Trash Can Acrobat Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 399 Local Time: 02:20 PM	Speak it, Dr. Teeth! Speak it! ...You go boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

12-14-2001, 11:15 PM	#28
CannibalisticArtist War Child Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: West Coast babyeee Posts: 511 Local Time: 06:20 AM	lights one up amen to that! if it's the law, it must be right.

12-15-2001, 01:28 AM	#30
U2Bama Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Gulf Coast State of Mine Posts: 3,405 Local Time: 09:20 AM	z edge: Have you tried that new Grilled Chicken Quesadilla at Taco Bell? Most of you know how conservative and pseudo-libertarian I am, but let me propose this: If you are in a wreck and you are NOT wearing your seatbelt, insurance does NOT pay for your injuries. How does that sound? ~U2Alabama

12-15-2001, 02:44 AM	#31
Mirrorball Man War Child Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: On Detonation Boulevard Posts: 553 Local Time: 02:20 PM	Z edge: Why don't you want to wear a seatbelt? ------------------ Rain from Heaven. I don't need the smell of incense in the morning haze. Let's do the War on Drugs.

12-15-2001, 04:02 AM	#32
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,647 Local Time: 09:20 AM	I'm sorry, but this "I don't wear it around town for comfort" excuse is really weak. So you're not going all that fast. Still, any impact would cause more bodily damage to you without your seatbelt than with it. A side impact at 25 miles an hour would probably at least throw you to the other side of the car without a seat belt. A rear impact would definitely throw you into the steering wheel. And that's not ruling out the chances of a drunk driver or a speeder hitting you. There are just WAY too many variables for you to make this claim of 'comfort' and expect it to hold up. Especially in Oklahoma. The vast majority of deaths from car accidents are from people who weren't wearing their seatbelts. Whether they were on the highway or just driving down a country road. No offense to you, z edge, but this comfort thing is stupid. The law is there to protect lives. If you're too lazy to click a seatbelt into place, then yes, you will be fined (and really, it's not ALL that uncomfortable to have 2 little straps across your lap and chest). Breaking the law usually results in fines, anyway. The way you're arguing you might as well toss in speeding tickets as purely a way to increase revenues (which it partly is, but still). The law is very clear. Buckling up is the law. If you don't buckle up, you're breaking the law. If you get caught, don't act like it's some hidden injustice.

12-16-2001, 06:37 AM	#33
poptart2001 The Fly Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Norwich England Posts: 154 Local Time: 02:20 PM	I just dont understand it,why the hell would anyone want to risks their lifes for the sake of feeling a little "uncomfortable" youve all seen the adverts showing the difference betweeen the impact on accidents without your seatbelts on,and anyone who dosent wear their seatbelts shouldnt be able to drive!!!!!!!!!!! i know alot of you arguing that it your "choice" but have you all got a suicide wish?????????? ------------------ a vampire or a victim it depends on whos around Dont let the Bastards grind you down

12-25-2001, 03:48 AM	#34
cmb737 Refugee Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Denver,CO Posts: 1,388 Local Time: 07:20 AM	Had my life saved by a seat belt 2 days ago. Thank God and it will be a much nicer Christmas since I am not in a hospital bed. ------------------ Well the God I believe in isn't short of cash..Mister!

12-25-2001, 06:24 PM	#35
tiny dancer Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: small town Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 96,451 Local Time: 02:20 PM	I have known people in my life who were killed in auto accidents because of not wearing seatbels. How I wish they were still here. SEATBELTS SAVES LIVES PERIOD!

12-26-2001, 12:23 AM	#36
bonovista War Child Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: the Bad Girls School where MissMac graduated from. Posts: 549 Local Time: 02:20 PM	Unfortunately...NOT everyone carries extensive medical insurance, so if they were to get into a serious accident, where the hospital stay can get up to the thousands, it will be the tax payers who will end up flipping the bill. Also, one of the main reasons we do have the law, is to protect children. If we wear our seatbelts, it shows our children that we care about our lives as well as their's. My motto in life... "It's better to lose a minute of your life, then your life in a minute.." It really only take less than a minute to strap yourself in. And one important thing..There are laws we all don't like, but I myself have learned to accept them. [This message has been edited by bonovista (edited 12-25-2001).]

12-26-2001, 11:23 PM	#37
senrab Refugee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,765 Local Time: 10:20 AM	Oh, I know, it's just so hard to take 2 seconds and put a seatbelt on. Sheesh....

12-27-2001, 02:49 AM	#38
sharky New Yorker Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,637 Local Time: 10:20 AM	All this argument about its your life and you're not hurting anyone isn't entirely true. When you get in an accident, your body becomes a human projectile. Most of the people that wear seat belts and are still hurt in car accidents tend to be hurt by other bodies in the car who were not wearing seat belts. Plus, the government needs the money they collect from fines for not wearing belts to pay for all the hospital care those who don't wear belts, get in accidents and can't pay for their care.

12-29-2001, 02:58 AM	#39
zooropamanda Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Smile, you're reading my post Posts: 6,515 Local Time: 12:20 AM	um hello children need i say more? i actually dont get what the problem with wearing one is?