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Hello all! I just have to wonder why alot of conservatives are such hypocrites. They want the government to stay out of their lives, but when it comes to other peoples rights they dont mind gonvernment intervention, such as banning gay marriage or banning abortion.
 
Hello all! I just have to wonder why alot of conservatives are such hypocrites. They want the government to stay out of their lives, but when it comes to other peoples rights they dont mind gonvernment intervention, such as banning gay marriage or banning abortion.

That's the multi-trillion dollar question.
 
I just find it so sad. they dont protest war, they dont march to end hunger. But if the government wants to help the sick they get up and protest that.
 
Im just sick of republican/democrat issues. how about we just focus on human issues. We should worry about helping our fellow man not helping our party.
 
Not sure we'll ever be capable truly achieving that goal. There may be an individual, or small group that from time to time gets our country or civilization to do good, but too often we're distracted by greed or other self interests.
 
I just find it so sad. they dont protest war, they dont march to end hunger. But if the government wants to help the sick they get up and protest that.

You have to ask yourself: "What Would Jesus Do?" to understand their mindset. If that doesn't give you the answer you want to hear, you get angry and talk about how you don't want to give your hard earned money to lazy people.
 
It was nice to see Searchlight get some national coverage today. I was looking at it on youtube because I juts cannot listen to that Palin woman talk for any amount of time. It was also amusing to see all the Medicare participants complaining about government health care. :heart:
 
It was nice to see Searchlight get some national coverage today.

I agree.

The stats on the front page of the paper this morning made me laugh:

SEARCHLIGHT BY THE NUMBERS

5,000 to 10,000 Expected crowd

More than two dozen international news media outlets expected

38 Portable toilets

21 Motel rooms in Searchlight

Roughly 800 Population of Searchlight

More than 10,000 Hotel rooms in nearby Laughlin


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Indeed. Although I would say that Laughlin's more capable of handling the crowds.

I wonder if these clowns cleaned up after themselves, or did they let the Socialist county workers handle that? I'll be there next weekend; they better not have fucked up my desert.
 
Will the informed intelligent tea bagger(if you exist) please stand up?

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You know, I'm quite surprised at how polarised the U.S.A. has become. When reading some sites with political news (and their comments sections) I almost never encounter a sentiment of 'us and them' or 'us with them' but always 'us against them'. Be it with Democrats, Republicans, Tea Party activists. There seems to be no ground for compromise.
I think this will escalate in the forseeable future. With such a deep distrust in society, things will explode sooner or later.
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You know, I'm quite surprised at how polarised the U.S.A. has become. When reading some sites with political news (and their comments sections) I almost never encounter a sentiment of 'us and them' or 'us with them' but always 'us against them'. Be it with Democrats, Republicans, Tea Party activists. There seems to be no ground for compromise.
I think this will escalate in the forseeable future. With such a deep distrust in society, things will explode sooner or later.
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I really believe it comes out of fear. When people are afraid they get selfish and angry. I think the fear comes from both a personal safety aspect and a financial aspect. I would love to blame it all on the Bush administration, but some of the financial fears are rooted from Reagan's tax cuts. Bush didn't help with his promotion of fear and self-interest, especially after 9/11.

I blame Clinton for some of it, too. He was too weak as a person to stand up politically to the Republican majority's goals (Gramm Act, etc.).

So, while I think a lot of the fear is irrational--terrorists are NOT going to kill you, people should be making better financial decisions for themselves, etc.--I do believe that part of the base of it is the growing gap between those in the top 2-5% of income in the country and the rest. Wealth is moving it's way upward faster than it had been, and that is affecting the entire country. It also doesn't help that people have fooled themselves as to what it actually costs to run our society.

Anyway, it may be oversimplifying it, but I do think that is the root.
 
I really believe it comes out of fear. When people are afraid they get selfish and angry. I think the fear comes from both a personal safety aspect and a financial aspect. I would love to blame it all on the Bush administration, but some of the financial fears are rooted from Reagan's tax cuts. Bush didn't help with his promotion of fear and self-interest, especially after 9/11.

I blame Clinton for some of it, too. He was too weak as a person to stand up politically to the Republican majority's goals (Gramm Act, etc.).

So, while I think a lot of the fear is irrational--terrorists are NOT going to kill you, people should be making better financial decisions for themselves, etc.--I do believe that part of the base of it is the growing gap between those in the top 2-5% of income in the country and the rest.

kramwest1, I see your point on income distribution.

But do regular folks fear tax cuts...or do they fear tax increases? Where do you think this country is headed on tax policy?
 
why are taxes all people are ever worried about. Republicans keep telling us that democrats are going to raise our taxes so high that we wont even be able to survive. well when exactly is that going to happen? It hasnt so far. And the rich need to pay more taxes ALOT more. I think if the poor need anything we should make the rich pay for it! No one needs that much money.
 
kramwest1, I see your point on income distribution.

But do regular folks fear tax cuts...or do they fear tax increases? Where do you think this country is headed on tax policy?

People decry taxes because they don't see that they are getting what they think they are paying for. Some of that is a lack of education (about government and taxes), but the extreme decrease in the taxes for the upper 2% doesn't help either. Maybe it's fear in the form of paranoia that people hear tax increase and they assume it's on them.

Oh, no doubt taxes will have to go up. But, most of those taxes will/should be levied on the top 5%. I disagree with the base level of upper income taxes at $250,000 income per year. There is a huge difference between earning $250K in Connecticut and earning $250K in Minnesota. (particularly for the Health Care Reform Bill)

We need to remove the max income level for Social Security contributions and then pare back the payout level. SS was meant to be so our seniors weren't eating dog food, not just another retirement account. Unfortunately, if you earn or are worth a certain amount, you shouldn't get Social Security in retirement.

I don't want to hijack this thread into a tax discussion, but I do think that a lack of understanding about our current tax situation, a lack of understanding about the history of our taxation, and a fear/paranoia of being taxed too much with seemingly little to show is at the heart of many Tea Party people's concerns (whether they know it or not).
 
why are taxes all people are ever worried about. Republicans keep telling us that democrats are going to raise our taxes so high that we wont even be able to survive. well when exactly is that going to happen? It hasnt so far. And the rich need to pay more taxes ALOT more. I think if the poor need anything we should make the rich pay for it! No one needs that much money.

Suggest this and people yell class warfare, but what they don't realize is that since the '60s and particularly since the '80s, the top 2% have been paying a lot less in taxes. So yes it's class warfare, but it was a war fought and won by the rich decades ago. It needs to shift back at least to some degree.
 
I know people yell that they want to avoid class warfare without realizing they are already in that war and we are losing it. you are so right
 
We need to remove the max income level for Social Security contributions and then pare back the payout level. SS was meant to be so our seniors weren't eating dog food, not just another retirement account. Unfortunately, if you earn or are worth a certain amount, you shouldn't get Social Security in retirement.

Yeah, I definitely see means-testing on the way too. If you're relatively young, it's best not to include full social security benefits in your retirement picture. Another government program going broke quick.
 
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