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Old 04-06-2010, 06:19 PM   #441
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But, what do most perceive as the issues of the Tea Party?
Well maybe this is where the problem lies. I don't even think the Tea Party really knows the issues of it's platform.
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Like I said, I live in TX where I would think a higher number would align themselves with the tea party, higher than most states, and the numbers still wouldn't be that high here...

Really?

What did / does your Governor's race indicate, that more people in Texas are in line with Obama's agenda or the Tea Party issues?
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Now, I'm on my way to a Tea Party. I'll report back on all the racist remarks I hear and the tally of Obama mustaches I see...
Please give us a count of the signs equating Stalin and Hitler and Obama. Because those are at T. P. rallies whether you like to think so or not.
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Really?

What did / does your Governor's race indicate, that more people in Texas are in line with Obama's agenda or the Tea Party issues?
This is my point about the poll, is ^^^ this how it was worded? If that's the case then it probably is that high, and it's a crap poll.

You're not listening to me, most here do not believe Republican = Tea Party. Our Tea Party percentage may be high but not as high as the 48% would suggest, and I would think it's even less in other parts of the country.
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As ever, two favorite straw men. The race card and sexuality

Wow. So much for a problem with name-calling here.
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Please give us a count of the signs equating Stalin and Hitler and Obama. Because those are at T. P. rallies whether you like to think so or not.
In a crowd of 2,000, I neither saw nor heard any racial references or any mention of Hitler, so I don't accept your premise, martha.

There were even.... black people and Hispanics there!
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This is my point about the poll, is ^^^ this how it was worded? If that's the case then it probably is that high, and it's a crap poll.

You're not listening to me, most here do not believe Republican = Tea Party. Our Tea Party percentage may be high but not as high as the 48% would suggest, and I would think it's even less in other parts of the country.

I get it. and I agree that most would not call themselves a member of the Tea Party movement.

I did find one Rasmussen poll where only about 16% self identified as being a part of the Tea Party movement.

I did not call myself a member of the 'Obama Nation movement' in 2008

I did vote for him,

I do think many will vote with Tea Party issues over the current Administration

here is another poll

Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics
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In a crowd of 2,000, I neither saw nor heard any racial references or any mention of Hitler,

'Tea party' protesters in Nevada target health law, Reid - latimes.com


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"I believe that we're heading down the same road" as Stalin and Hitler, he said, adding that he did not see his sign as exaggerated
Just because you haven't seen them, doesn't mean they're not there.
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In a crowd of 2,000, I neither saw nor heard any racial references or any mention of Hitler, so I don't accept your premise, martha.

There were even.... black people and Hispanics there!
It's hard to believe not one mention of Hitler since I've seen several at both rallies I've been to. And as far as the racial reference you don't have the greatest track record of admitting or recognizing racism when it's been presented to you in here in the past, so I'll take that with a grain of salt.

But I hope you had fun
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Well maybe this is where the problem lies. I don't even think the Tea Party really knows the issues of it's platform.
They just know they hate black people in positions of power, right?
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They just know they hate black people in positions of power, right?
Now who's playing the straw man?

Show me where I said that...

You can't, it's just a way of avoidance, avoiding the hypocricy, and the fact that it is plagued with a lot of hatred that seems to cloud the real issues.
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Is there an official platform for the Tea Party somewhere?

It really just seems to be the catchall for people's frustrations. (However misplaced I think that is.)
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Is there an official platform for the Tea Party somewhere?
Whatever it is, I'm sure it's plenty folksy.
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Well yes, if the poll puts one in line with the tea party e.g. because he favored tax cuts, then I guess that number is even low. So it depends on how strongly your views have to be aligned with the main claims of the tea party to be counted in the 48% number.
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a congressman here who's spoken out against some tea party members has now received death threats: Congressman Steve Cohen, Tea Party, Hate Mail; Congress, John Lewis, Emanuel Cleaver - WREG

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  • FBI Investigates Hate Mail Sent To Congressman Cohen
  • Threats Received After Cohen Criticizes Tea Party Movement
  • Cohen Says He's Willing To Talk With Tea Party Members

(Memphis 4/6/2010) Inside his Memphis office, Congressman Steve Cohen shows hate mail he's received on his Blackberry containing threats for criticizing the Tea Party movement.

Cohen says he's received at least three emails, "When you take the action of three sick individuals who suggested that I should be burned on a cross and or my throat slit, this doesn't reflect well on the Tea Party."

One email says, "It would be nice to read someone had cut your (expletive) throat."

Another email reads, "If our tea parties had hoods, we would burn your (expletive) on a cross on the White House front lawn."

The comments were sparked by an interview Cohen did last week.

Cohen said, "I did not suggest, although some people have taken it, that all Tea Party people are out to do harm to others, as the Ku Klux Klan did. I said they were without robes and hoods, which means they were not the Klan."

Cohen said his remarks were motivated by incidents at a Washington, D.C. rally last month in which he says his heroes, Congressmen John Lewis and Emanuel Cleaver, were spat upon and called the N-word.

Cohen says someone in the Tea Party should denounce those actions.

But some Tea Party members say Cohen should be apologizing to them and retract his statements made last week. The "N" word is not heard in video of the D.C. incident and it's not clear is Congressman Cleaver was spat on.

"I've always had a reputation of speaking truth to power and this is a power group and I think I spoke some truth. It might have been with a broad brush, it was maybe hyperbolic and I'm sorry people got so concerned."

Cohen says he's met with a group of Tea Party members before and would be willing to listen to them again if, he says, they are willing to discuss their disagreements without anger filled slogans.
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Whatever it is, I'm sure it's plenty folksy.


and misspelled.
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and misspelled.
I think it's just:

Ronald Reagan--Yeah, what he said.



(Mind you, not what he did, just what he said.)
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a congressman here who's spoken out against some tea party members has now received death threats:
Yeah, a guy in Washington State was arrested yesterday for making threats against a senator who'd voted for the health care bill.

No idea if he calls himself a Tea Partier or not, but just following in the lines of the threats.
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Don't forget that it's grassroots!

REAL AMERICA!
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According to this 12% of the tp support the health care bill?!

Shouldn't their membership be revoked?
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