The official YouTube debate thread... - Page 2

U2democrat · 07-23-2007, 06:41 PM

This debate is more in your face...I'm liking it.

U2democrat · 07-23-2007, 08:04 PM

As usual, I

Joe Biden, and he'd make a great Sec. of State.

deep · 07-23-2007, 08:15 PM

it was pretty good

they have too much class to tear each other apart

I was thinking the same thing

about Kucinich's wife being the best thing about him

U2democrat · 07-23-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by deep

I was thinking the same thing

about Kucinich's wife being the best thing about him

Mike Gravel is

He's beyond the Democratic party.

deep · 07-23-2007, 08:22 PM

Gravel

seems to be more libertarian

with that consumption tax replacing income tax talk

also, I liked Obama's video, music and all
I think he could really work hard to get the vote out, even if Hil gets the nom and he is not on the ticket.

anitram · 07-23-2007, 08:42 PM

Obama's video was fantastic. But he's made great commercials all along - very inspiring.

I actually liked all of them well enough, except Gravel who is really kind of eating up space and time. I'd vote for each of them over any Republican. That said, I think Hillary will be the nominee (unless Obama pulls off a miracle).

Hillary isn't my favourite, but she came across quite well. She is authoritative and well spoken. I also like that the Clintons would probably be willing to slit throats to get elected; there is something almost genuinely honest about that.

prisz25 · 07-23-2007, 08:54 PM

I am usually not a Hillary fan, but tonight she was excellent. I was very impressed. Gravel was soooo crazy, a little frightening at times lol.
Obama was excellent as well, but at this point I feel Hillary will get the nomination.

Irvine511 · 07-23-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by anitram
That said, I think Hillary will be the nominee (unless Obama pulls off a miracle).

Hillary isn't my favourite, but she came across quite well. She is authoritative and well spoken. I also like that the Clintons would probably be willing to slit throats to get elected; there is something almost genuinely honest about that.

i'm an Obama-boy, but i agree with this.

she has deftly come into her own over this past spring and summer, and truly comes off -- along with Biden, actually -- as the true global heavyweight, able to stare Putin and Iran in the face and not blink, and yet there's no swagger.

i do think she could do wonders for us diplomatically. it's difficult to underestimate how much the rest of the world loves Bill Clinton -- and i've heard this from even stridently anti-American Europeans -- and she's held in almost as high esteem.

i just dread another president that nearly half the electorate holds an irrational hatred.

i want to get past the baby boom and their "with us/against us" mentalities. let's turn the page.

phillyfan26 · 07-23-2007, 09:29 PM

I loved the one Gravel rant where they zoomed in on his face. He had the "Ron Artest about to fight the Palace at Auburn Hills" look in his eye the entire time. High comedy.

joyfulgirl · 07-23-2007, 09:35 PM

I liked Hillary better than usual and for the first time could imagine voting for her.

I think she's really the most qualified.

anitram · 07-23-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by joyfulgirl
I liked Hillary better than usual and for the first time could imagine voting for her. I think she's really the most qualified.

I've heard that from 3 people tonight, which is interesting.

Irvine511 · 07-23-2007, 10:34 PM

the gay marriage section -- am watching what i missed earlier this evening -- and it's amazing how they just can't say they support gay marriage. they do, in content, just not in form.

why not?

it reminds me of someone loving and supporting their daughter and her spouse, but they just can't bring themselves to say the words, "my daughter is a lesbian."

or, they're just chickenshit.

joyfulgirl · 07-23-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by Irvine511

or, they're just chickenshit.

I think it's pure politics.

Lila64 · 07-23-2007, 10:49 PM

is the debate up online anywhere to watch?

(or tv)

joyfulgirl · 07-23-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Lila64
is the debate up online anywhere to watch?
(or tv)

It's re-running right now on CNN in my time zone (MDT).

Lila64 · 07-23-2007, 10:57 PM

thanks!

Canadiens1131 · 07-23-2007, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by joyfulgirl
I liked Hillary better than usual and for the first time could imagine voting for her. I think she's really the most qualified.

U2democrat · 07-24-2007, 05:39 AM

Hillary still doesn't do it for me

None of them do. I love Joe Biden, but he has no chance of getting nominated, which is why I support him for Sec. of State. Other than that, the other candidates haven't convinced me that they deserve my vote.

unico · 07-24-2007, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irvine511
the gay marriage section -- am watching what i missed earlier this evening -- and it's amazing how they just can't say they support gay marriage. they do, in content, just not in form.

why not?

it reminds me of someone loving and supporting their daughter and her spouse, but they just can't bring themselves to say the words, "my daughter is a lesbian."

or, they're just chickenshit.

Quote:

I believe that equality of opportunity should be afforded to all Americans regardless of race, color, creed or sexual orientation. For that reason I support the right of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered persons to have the full protections and rights afforded under civil law including the right to marry the person of their choice. - Kucinich

what is so chickenshit about that?

He is the ONLY candidate that not only supports same-sex marriage, but also:
-including sexual orientation and gender identity in the federal hate crimes law
-family medical leave for same sex couples
-same-sex immigration
-gay and lesbian adoption
-repealing of don't ask don't tell

if this man stands for what you (collectively, not "you as in just you Irvine) believe in, then why overlook him? if we don't vote for what we REALLY want in the primaries, why bother voting at all? clinton and obama are ONLY the front runners because the media makes them out to be. i find nothing in their platform to be convincing of true change. we have this opportunity to vote for what we really want for this country, why not support the person who embodies our ideals?

anitram · 07-24-2007, 06:58 AM

Kucinich has no chance whatsoever, but he has interesting ideas. Particularly abolishing NAFTA - what a fantastic idea.

07-23-2007, 06:41 PM	#21
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anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 10:00 AM	Kucinich has no chance whatsoever, but he has interesting ideas. Particularly abolishing NAFTA - what a fantastic idea. __________________

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07-23-2007, 08:15 PM	#23
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,601 Local Time: 06:00 AM	it was pretty good they have too much class to tear each other apart I was thinking the same thing about Kucinich's wife being the best thing about him

07-23-2007, 08:22 PM	#25
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,601 Local Time: 06:00 AM	Gravel seems to be more libertarian with that consumption tax replacing income tax talk also, I liked Obama's video, music and all I think he could really work hard to get the vote out, even if Hil gets the nom and he is not on the ticket.

07-23-2007, 08:42 PM	#26
anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 10:00 AM	Obama's video was fantastic. But he's made great commercials all along - very inspiring. I actually liked all of them well enough, except Gravel who is really kind of eating up space and time. I'd vote for each of them over any Republican. That said, I think Hillary will be the nominee (unless Obama pulls off a miracle). Hillary isn't my favourite, but she came across quite well. She is authoritative and well spoken. I also like that the Clintons would probably be willing to slit throats to get elected; there is something almost genuinely honest about that.

07-23-2007, 08:54 PM	#27
prisz25 War Child Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: MIAMI!! Posts: 785 Local Time: 10:00 AM	I am usually not a Hillary fan, but tonight she was excellent. I was very impressed. Gravel was soooo crazy, a little frightening at times lol. Obama was excellent as well, but at this point I feel Hillary will get the nomination.

07-23-2007, 09:29 PM	#29
phillyfan26 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30,343 Local Time: 09:00 AM	I loved the one Gravel rant where they zoomed in on his face. He had the "Ron Artest about to fight the Palace at Auburn Hills" look in his eye the entire time. High comedy.

07-23-2007, 09:35 PM	#30
joyfulgirl Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 16,656 Local Time: 07:00 AM	I liked Hillary better than usual and for the first time could imagine voting for her. I think she's really the most qualified.

07-23-2007, 10:34 PM	#32
Irvine511 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 33,720 Local Time: 10:00 AM	the gay marriage section -- am watching what i missed earlier this evening -- and it's amazing how they just can't say they support gay marriage. they do, in content, just not in form. why not? it reminds me of someone loving and supporting their daughter and her spouse, but they just can't bring themselves to say the words, "my daughter is a lesbian." or, they're just chickenshit.

07-23-2007, 10:49 PM	#34
Lila64 Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 52,894 Local Time: 07:00 AM	is the debate up online anywhere to watch? (or tv)

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Lila64 Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ♥Set List Lane♥ Posts: 52,894 Local Time: 07:00 AM	thanks!

07-24-2007, 05:39 AM	#38
U2democrat Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England by way of 'Murica. Posts: 22,142 Local Time: 02:00 PM	Hillary still doesn't do it for me None of them do. I love Joe Biden, but he has no chance of getting nominated, which is why I support him for Sec. of State. Other than that, the other candidates haven't convinced me that they deserve my vote.