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Old 12-03-2011, 01:10 PM   #681
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wow, even science is political for you? science is science, it's the application of it's findings that become politicized. climate change is the best political example of one side outright rejecting consensus and then funding hacks to disagree with said consensus.

are you skeptical of climate change because of the science or because you agree politically with those who fund scientists to disagree with the overwhelming consensus or are you skeptical because you don't believe that the steps necessary to combat it's advance are good for the country/world but you're too scared to come out and say "i don't care about the environment, i care about money" and so you pay for the patina of science to give you the ability to look at yourself in the mirror the next day?

Look at the lies and deception perpetrated by Al Gore and a number of scientists. A surefire way to increase skepticism is to be dishonest. How is that a difficult concept to comprehend? And is it only the scientists that agree with me that have financial incentives to be misleading? There aren't any who you cite who are fearmongers who rely on half-truths and manipulation to keep the grant money flowing? Can you introduce me to some of these saints?

Don't say I don't care about the environment. That's not true. But climate change? I don't know or care if it exists or how. Regardless, it's about number 700 on the list of things I'm worried about. What I don't want is billions of dollars in investment and policies that nobody knows for sure will work or to what degree. Was the Solyndra investment grounded in science or in blind faith?
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Look at the lies and deception perpetrated by Al Gore and a number of scientists.
Every time the whiff of a science debate gets started on this forum and cogent points are presented from middle of the road or leftist posters, the few conservative posters grab the conservative radio talking points without fail.

Fascinating.

Al Gore! Michael Moore! Anarchist groups on college campuses mobilizing! Good white suburban Christians marginalized! At least you can still get a good glass of raw milk from some places these days, I tell ya.
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But climate change? I don't know or care if it exists or how.


and there we go.
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:48 PM   #684
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and there we go.
Yeah that statement is pretty telling...
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Don't say I don't care about the environment. That's not true.

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But climate change? I don't know or care if it exists or how.
You are aware that these two statements are contradictory, right?
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As far as i'm aware the only time that the science on climate change was heavily claimed as fabrication the scientists were found not guilty in the courts, they got criticised for how they acted around their findings but there were no issues found with their results.

Everything seems so short termist from the majority of politicians though especially seeming from the right, where it is all about growth and nothing else, to hell with the future of the environment or what kind of culture you wish future generations to be brought up in. Even if you aren't sold on climate change there surely can be no denying that you know oil, gas and coal pollute quite heavily and are widely known to be not too great for your health or the environment, why is it so bad to focus on something a bit cleaner and safer? Won't somebody please think of the children?
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Socialist swine, muppet propagandists!

You'll not have me care about endangered frogs! Me? I'm going to eat pork and wash it down with a glass of raw milk.
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Rainbow Connection, indeed.





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I saw the movie and I didn't see that at all. I guess I'm just subliminally brainwashed. Somehow I don't see Jason Segel as part of the liberal Communist Hollywood elite. I believe he wrote the script, but maybe a collaborator put all that stuff in.

Leave the Muppets alone , I love Kermit. I think that's the guy from The Five, he's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. It must be tough living such a paranoid joyless existence.
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"Why does it always have to be a rich businessman as the bad guy?" That's the crux of their whining argument, right?

If so, it's because regular working folk don't have the money to buy the Muppet's theater.

I mean, duh.
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Next they'll want to occupy sesame street.

Learning is such a liberal thing
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Conservatives are always trying to vilify education.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:21 AM   #695
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and if it's because he was a rich oil tycoon, it's because that made the most sense to them as to why he'd want to tear the place down i guess. they also could've had him be a real estate tycoon and want to turn it into a mall or something, but they probably thought that'd been done too much recently or something.
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At least they weren't promoting the gay agenda, since Kermit is still into Miss Piggy and not the new Muppet Walter.
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Once again the agenda driven amateurs at Fox have lied to you...
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The 45 Worst Fox News Moments Of 2011

Some of this stuff is amazing.

Elie Wiesel won the Holocaust.
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That's entertaining and depressing
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Fox News zings CNN and MSNBC on holiday card, just like last year | The Cutline - Yahoo! News

Jeez. Get some class, FOX.
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