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Old 03-13-2015, 04:46 PM   #841
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I don't find it analogous because even if a child with DS has loving parents, it will never be fully able to live in today's society. It's doable, sure, but it's not comparable 100% to 'normal' life. While being gay or straight does not impair your ability to live 'normal' life at all. By comparing the two it would be like saying being gay is a handicap.
That's fine that you don't, I am telling you 100% there are people who would. It's a matter of perspective.

Think about it another way - you can choose a male or female embryo. That is permissible under the law of many US states today.
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Old 03-13-2015, 04:51 PM   #842
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Yeah, I know that's possible. There's far more we can decide. And sure there will be people who want those choices. I'm just not sure where we should draw the line. Being able to select for an embryo without birth defects I'm all in favour of, but if we can pick males or females... we might be going towards Chinese or Indian situations where females are undervalued and an overpopulation of males...
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go to hell, Indiana.

Indiana House OKs controversial religious freedom bill
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Yeah, we kinda knew that was happening. And no way pence vetos it.

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I'm from Indiana ,and I fucking hate this shit they pull down south. To borrow from my Facebook:

"I'm just gonna be perfectly blunt regarding my scripture quoting yesterday: Jesus didn't shy away from people he disagreed with, he embraced them and loved them. Hiding behind religious freedom in order to refuse service to people isn't a Christian motive, it's simply one which enables people to continue to decide that they can just do whatever they feel like, regardless of who it effects. It's selfish. It doesn't help share the message, it tells people that Christians are hateful, spiteful people. Basically the exact opposite of what Jesus asked us to be.

I'm not saying to accept things you do not like, I'm saying to embrace them as Jesus did, and, as I all too often repeat: love each other. I don't know what's so hard about that. He gave us two commandments."

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Pretty fucking much.
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Old 03-26-2015, 05:46 PM   #847
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Yeah, we kinda knew that was happening. And no way pence vetos it.

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Too bad there's no one left in Indiana to say Knope.
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I did chuckle wryly to myself when I noticed that most of my friends who were opposed to the bill had, in fact, moved out of the state. Sigh

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Oh sure, clog the legal system with lawsuit after lawsuit. Nothing is more objective and legally binding than someone's own opinion of what religion they follow and their specific reading of its tenets.

This will go swimmingly.
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I have a deeply held religious objection to drunken bachelorette parties going to gay bars and treating them like petting zoos.
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So should we talk about that stellar excuse for a human being in CA who wants to get a law onto the ballot that it's open season (literally) on gay people?
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Someone was just telling me about this. Wtf...does crazy just follow me everywhere ?

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Someone was just telling me about this. Wtf...does crazy just follow me everywhere ?
Yes. This has nothing to do with nutjobs from Orange County. Nothing at all.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-proposal-all/
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Is the Washington Times still a Moonie-owned newspaper?
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I think most people have forgotten about the moonies
But yes I would call the W Times a right wing paper
I was just trying to find a link to an article about the initiative.


Here in CA anything can get on the ballot if they gather enough signatures.
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As you can clearly tell, I was unaware that Pence had already signed off on it.
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So should we talk about that stellar excuse for a human being in CA who wants to get a law onto the ballot that it's open season (literally) on gay people?
Wait whut?
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Wait whut?


It's a stunt, and California has a weird process by which anyone can introduce a bill.

It will be tossed out very quickly.
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Ah, kinda like our ministers have to discuss a comedian wanting to be the first Pharaoh of the Netherlands because law states if 40.000 people sign a petition they must discuss it.
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