The Gay Thread

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by jeevey

Irvine, maybe you or someone can help me out about this straight-acting thing. Is there status or premium attached to gay men who are stereotypically masculine enough to "pass" if they wanted, even if they are out? And is there lower status or competition for men who couldn't pass if they tried?

It would be impossible to make such generalizations.

I think someone describing himself as "straight-acting" says more about that person than any sort of hierarchy.

"Gay culture" is a complex thing, and increasingly diverse, and may be ending as we speak.

[LemonMelon]

If I could boycott Kansas for their blatant Jim Crow bullshit, I would. But what the fuck is in Kansas anyway?

[corianderstem]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

But what the fuck is in Kansas anyway?

Wind. With dust in it.

 

Thank you, I'm here all week. Tip your servers well!

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

what's interesting is that what they are proposing is *exactly* what INDY has said anti-gay discrimination can't compare to: Jim Crow.

History always repeats, regardless of what GAF might want us to believe. This is a damn shame.

[cobl04]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

If I could boycott Kansas for their blatant Jim Crow bullshit, I would. But what the fuck is in Kansas anyway?

Not Dorothy and Toto hahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

[LemonMelon]

I was going to make a joke about how shitty the Royals are, but they're in Missouri anyway.

[LuckyNumber7]

Missouri is a pretty confused state.


I bet there's a lot of gay people there and we just don't know it yet.

[jeevey]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

It would be impossible to make such generalizations.

Interesting. Of course in the straight world everyone has individual preferences, but it's clear that high status is attached to slim-bodied women with full breasts, and regarding women of color status is attached to women with straight hair, light skin and long, narrow features. And while individual women have their various tastes, status is attached to tall men over short ones and muscular over skinny ones.

"Gay culture" is a complex thing, and increasingly diverse, and may be ending as we speak.

How does that feel? It seems like the subculture has been pretty significant to gay American identity the gay rights movement. It's amazing that real integration seems within reach, but does the thought of assimilation have any mixed feelings attached?

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

If I could boycott Kansas for their blatant Jim Crow bullshit, I would. But what the fuck is in Kansas anyway?

Three lottery picks in the NBA draft and a museum about the Wizard of Oz (probably).

[Galeongirl]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

Wind. With dust in it.

 

Thank you, I'm here all week. Tip your servers well!

Nice!

[Irvine511]

i know this is old news, but her speech is so lovely and heartfelt that i can't not post it.

Ellen Page Joins HRCF's Time to Thrive Conference - YouTube

[beegee]

That was amazing. I hadn't heard the whole thing yet.

Thank you for posting it!

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

shelved in Indiana: Same-sex marriage ban won't be on November ballot

Why bother with the actual process of amending the constitution when a solitary judge can nullify it according to his/her agenda?

[PhilsFan]

Civil rights: a political agenda.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Why bother with the actual process of amending the constitution when a solitary judge can nullify it according to his/her agenda?

Why have a Constitution when we can just vote? Oh, wait, we're winning that too.

Do you really think that conservative, GOP appointed judges in super-duper red states like Utah and Oklahoma have some agenda?

What will it take for you to admit that it is unconstitutional to deny gay people access to civil marriage and that your opposition is rooted in nothing more than animus?

[INDY500]

A federal judge who struck down Virginia’s ban on gay marriage inaccurately attributed a quote from Declaration of Independence to the Constitution.
“Our Constitution declares that ‘all men’ are created equal. Surely this means all of us,” Arenda Wright Allen wrote in her original opinion, issued late Thursday.
Though the Fourteenth Amendment guarantees “equal protection” under the law, the Constitution does not include the phrase “all men are created equal.” That would be the Declaration of Independence.

Good thing we have these wise, constitutionally savvy judges to overturn the hateful, ignorant votes of unenlightened Virginians.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Good thing we have these wise, constitutionally savvy judges to overturn the hateful, ignorant votes of unenlightened Virginians.

Mildred Loving agrees with you!

[LuckyNumber7]

CNN/TIME is running an article titled "Is 'Coming Out' Still Considered Brave?"

I hate them so much.

[martha]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Three lottery picks in the NBA draft and a museum about the Wizard of Oz (probably).

It's in Liberal, Kansas, and it's insane. They also have a really good airplane museum there.

Welcome to Liberal!

I also can't believe that anyone's gender identity choice on freaking Facebook is a sign of the end of the world.

[corianderstem]

I stayed overnight once in Liberal, Kansas. I was on a road trip.

Yeah.