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Old 07-31-2012, 01:44 PM   #881
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Maybe try getting paid maternity leave laws in place before making assumptions about what new mothers actually have time and space to do, eh.
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Breastfeeding advocates have become incredibly militant in the last decade. It's like we took the near-universal formula feedings of the 60s and 70s and reversed it 180 without ever thinking of a reasonable compromise.

I have one friend whose son nearly died at birth of a congenital defect. 60% of babies that are diagnosed with the defect die within the first week of life or so. They were extremely lucky that he was diagnosed after about 10 hours, and that he was in a major urban centre with one of the top 3 children's hospitals in North America. He is doing great now, almost a year later, but it was very tough, with many nights spent in the NICU, and he will need regular monitoring for the first 18 years of his life. In any event, obviously he was not breastfed in the beginning - he was not fed at all aside from nutrition received intravenously as he was intubated for maybe 2 weeks or so. When he finally became able to digest, the surgeon insisted at formula because they needed to know exactly how much nutrition he was getting - both the volume and the nutritional value. After a while he could be switched to breast milk, but again only if fed by a bottle so that volume could be monitored and controlled. The breastfeeding specialist advised my friend that this is "just surgeon talk" and that doctors push formula because they get kickbacks, etc. My friend elected to take the surgeon's advice, following which the breastfeeding specialist told her that she would not help her try to teach him how to breastfeed later if it became possible. She made her feel terrible, and as if a nearly-dying baby wasn't already enough to deal with.

Another friend of mine had a daughter who was suffered from primary lactose intolerance (ie. severe reaction from birth) and was stagnating and then losing weight until 6 weeks of age when they moved her to lactose-free formula and she started thriving. My friend has had people make obnoxious comments to her in Starbucks, or on park benches or in the mall when they saw her feeding a very young baby with a bottle. Just total lack of consideration for the person's particular situation, and no sense that they should mind their own business.
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Just total lack of consideration for the person's particular situation, and no sense that they should mind their own business.
Way too many people with that mindset. Ugh.

Such awful stories, anitram. You raise good points-sometimes there are situations where a woman has to use the less popular method, health issues and such, that should be taken into consideration. And any specialist worth their salt shouldn't be saying that they'll refuse to help you if you dare deviate at all from their plan a bit. People who work in healthcare shouldn't be refusing patients help. I don't know when it was decided that was an acceptable behavior.

I was bottle-fed as a baby. So was my sister. We seem to have turned out fine. If a woman wants to breastfeed, let her. If she wants to use bottles, let her. It's not society's decision to make for her, so shut up and leave her alone.
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Breastfeeding advocates have become incredibly militant in the last decade.
I'm not even a mother and that drives me crazy. I think it might be part of an overall militant mother type of thing. Like I'm the best mother in the world and I feel some obsessive need to demonstrate that to you by forcing all of this on you and making you feel inferior. Apart from people like Bloomberg, I think it's just sad and wrong for women to do that to each other.

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If they knew her story I hope they'd feel like absolute shit. I can't believe people feel free to do something like that. We really have lost all boundaries.
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I'm not even a mother and that drives me crazy. I think it might be part of an overall militant mother type of thing. Like I'm the best mother in the world and I feel some obsessive need to demonstrate that to you by forcing all of this on you and making you feel inferior.
Ugh, yes, this. That drives me up the wall, too.
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Doctor refuses to treat overweight Shrewsbury patient
Worcester doctor said woman weighed over 200 pounds

UPDATED 6:30 PM EDT Aug 24, 2012
SHREWSBURY, Mass. -

Ida Davidson is the first to admit her weight goes up and down, but the Shrewsbury resident said she was stunned when a new primary care physician said she could not become a patient because she weighed more than 200 pounds.

"I can't believe and I did say that out loud, 'I can't believe you guys just said that to me.' I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life," Davidson said.

Davidson said she is a "little overweight." The incident on Wednesday occurred during a second visit to Dr. Helen M. Carter at the doctor's Worcester office.

Davidson said she believes, "I may be high risk for her and too much work is what I felt."

She said Carter focused on weight.

According to Davidson, "She's like, 'You gained weight, are your feet swollen, are your feet swollen?' I said 'No.' She was really obsessed about the whole thing and me being in her office and she didn't want to care for me."

Carter told NewsCenter 5 it's a matter of "self preservation for herself and her employees."

"After three consecutive injuries (with other patients) trying to care for people over 250 pounds, my office is unable to accommodate a certain weight and we put a limit on it," Carter said.

The policy may be unusual, but it is not illegal.

The American Medical Association's Council on Ethics and Judicial Affairs policy reads "Both patients and physicians should be able to exercise freedom in whom to enter into a patient-physician relationship ... physicians do not give up their freedom of association by merely becoming professionals."

Davidson said her situation was not handled with compassion, adding, "She didn't care about my health that day. I think she just cared that I was a liability to her and maybe too much work."

Carter said she "doesn't consider it discriminatory," adding that patients have alternatives. She said she spends a lot of time educating patients, "It's not so much your weight, it's the morbidity."

Davidson has vowed to find a new doctor.
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I don't see a problem with that considering all the liability involved. It's not like other doctors don't exist. The woman is a lot more than "a little overweight" if you look at her pictures and her weight in pounds--unless she's over six foot 200lbs is not normal or a little overweight. She went to see a doctor, didn't like what the doctor had to say.. and is now challenging the doctor? I just don't get that. There are much better facilities in the area she can go to.
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New York Soda Ban

By Jill Colvin, DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

NEW YORK CITY — Say goodbye to venti Frappuccinos, gallon movie theater slurpees and big sodas.

The city's Board of Health approved Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s ban on large sugar-sweetened drinks at its monthly meeting Thursday morning. Nine members voted for it, and one abstained.

Under the plan, all restaurants, fast-food joints, delis, movie theaters, sports stadiums and even food carts will be barred from selling sugar-sweetened drinks in cups larger than 16 ounces.

The limits will not apply to drinks sold in grocery stores, diet sodas, drinks that are more than 70-percent fruit juice, or that contain alcohol.
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I'm sure some people will just buy more than one bottle or cup, if that's allowed.

Really, I'm not too thrilled about this, even though I don't drink too much soda or sugary drinks. I understand obesity is a problem, and it's disgusting to see obese people not care about their weight or their health. But do we really need a nanny state to solve the problem?
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I'm sure some people will just buy more than one bottle or cup, if that's allowed.
If you try to do that they sew your lips together

Yes you can do that, so what's the point? I guess they think it's symbolic, has some sort of psychological effect. If people want to drink that much they'll find a way.
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Come to think of it, this is the new prohibition, in a sense.
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It just makes me roll my eyes, considering the way people drink alcoholic beverages at sporting events, concerts, etc. That also causes obesity, let alone other health problems.
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The mayor of a city is not the one to wage a war on health issues in this country. The war needs to be waged against, you guessed it, the major corporations who deceive people, who are allowed to be irresponsible with no consequence, who are allowed to value the dollar and only the dollar.
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Also, what about high fructose corn syrup? That's practically in everything now. Isn't that stuff worse than basic sugar?
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Also, what about high fructose corn syrup? That's practically in everything now. Isn't that stuff worse than basic sugar?
I'm sure HFCS ia classified as sugar for these purposes.

Solution to this problem: buy a super-uber-enormous-mega-giga-hyper-godzilla-bonosego-sized Coke, and put a small (or not small) amount of your spirit of choice in it.
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Solution to this problem: buy a super-uber-enormous-mega-giga-hyper-godzilla-bonosego-sized Coke, and put a small (or not small) amount of your spirit of choice in it.


I kind of want to use the phrase "bonosego-sized" the next time I go and order a drink from somewhere now .
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I kind of want to use the phrase "bonosego-sized" the next time I go and order a drink from somewhere now .
A frighteningly large number of people would have no problem understanding what you meant.
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Kids! Hide that bag of Flamin' Hot Cheetos.

I heard today a few schools in California are
confiscating such dire contraband.

Schools consider Flamin’ Hot Cheetos ban over ‘health hazard’
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