The End is Nigh: US Presidential Election Thread Part XVI

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by BEAL

"The" Blacks

I Assume you are being coy about your impressions of Trumpsters. If you go back through almost every post I make in FYM I always say African-American. I did say 'black on black violence' in the mass shooting thread but I believe that is the last time in the summer.

Here is my thought nugget right now. Since the original Comey announcement 10 days ago, it seems that Hillary has been bleeding votes. She is desperately trying to suture things up.

These votes may not translate directly into conversions to Trump votes. The big question is how many people are not going to vote for Hillary. They may stay home, go 3rd party, or write in Bernie.

[LuckyNumber7]

Hold on tight

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

This is some gross



https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794450623404113920

And despite all this, the line to see HRC in Philly tonight is 3 miles long.

[LemonMelon]

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

Election is over folks. We can all go home now.

Look at this foreign animal trying to vote for Killary

#rigged

[Mrs. Garrison]

State Department contractors detail how Clinton and her team ignored security rules | Fox News

EXCLUSIVE: Two State Department contractors, with decades of experience protecting the United States' most sensitive secrets, are speaking out for the first time about Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state and how the rules for government security clearance holders did not seem to apply to Clinton and her team.

“The State Department was her oyster and it was great for the [Clinton] foundation and great for the Clintons to be able to have such a great position," Dave Whitnah told Fox News.

Whitnah said he worked within the State Department's Office of Security Technology which is responsible for cameras and alarms and sweeping for bugs. Whitnah said everyone understood the secretary of state is the primary target of foreign intelligence services.

“The number one person would be the secretary of state and their communications," Whitnah explained. "You can think of the Iran negotiations, nuclear negotiation, negotiations with Russia, talks with Russia. You know, anything to do with foreign policy."

Whitnah emphasized that tens of millions of dollars were spent on technical security for Clinton that apparently was disregarded as her team traveled around the world on official U.S. government business.

"It was unfathomable that [her BlackBerry] would be used for anything other than just unclassified communication," Whitnah said. Clinton’s devices were not certified as secure by the State Department. As for her use of a non-secure BlackBerry, Whitnah stressed that email can be intercepted and, “Even if turned off, it’s still a listening device so that’s why you take out the batteries.”

As Clinton was sworn in as secretary in January 2009, government contractor Amel Smith said he was also working at the department and: "State Department rules are clear. I helped write those rules."

Smith says his 30 years of experience includes serving in the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne, before becoming a counter-intelligence and counter-espionage investigator at State tracking down breaches of classified materials. He reviewed some of the FBI witness interviews from the Clinton email investigation with Fox News, and questioned those who claimed not to have the proper training in handling sensitive information.

"I hear things like, well, I forgot, um, I don't know that I was trained, I don't know this. You know -- every single person that had access to that information when it was sent is in violation," Smith emphasized.

The FBI witness interviews also show secure facilities for classified information -- known as SCIFs -- were specially built for Clinton in her in Washington, D.C., and Chappaqua, N.Y., homes. Doors that were supposed to be locked were left open.

"If you've got an uncleared person in there, it's automatically a compromise," Smith said.

Another FBI interview summary said there were personally owned desktop computers in the secure facilities at Clinton's homes, yet she told the FBI that she did not have a computer of any kind in these facilities.

"If somebody said they're there, then they probably were there, and you know, the reason you would deny it was because you probably didn't have approval," Smith said.

Having unapproved computers in a SCIF would automatically call for a security investigation.

Asked for his reaction to Clinton's claim that nothing she sent or received was marked classified, Whitnah called that assertion a “misrepresentation.” Fox News was first to report in June that at least one of the emails contained a classified information portion marking for "c" which is confidential. FBI Director James Comey later said in July when he recommended against criminal charges that a handful of Clinton emails contained classified markings.

But more than 2,100 emails with classified information, and at least 22 at the “top secret” level, passed through Clinton's unsecured private server. Asked how it happened, Smith said, "Personally, there had to have been somebody moving classified information from C-LAN, C-LAN again is Secret, Confidential only, and JWICS. JWICS is where all top secret information is."

After new emails were found in the Anthony Weiner sexting case belonging to his estranged wife Clinton aide Huma Abedin, the FBI reopened the Clinton email investigation. On Sunday, Comey said the emails did not change his recommendation against criminal charges because his investigators did not find intent to move classified materials outside secure government channels

"Whether it's the private email server, whether it's this private laptop. If there's classified -- one document on there -- that's classified, it's a violation. Somebody violated [the] law," Smith said. "Throw all the politics out the window, what we're talking about is the defense of this nation."

Asked about Smith and Whitnah, who filed a complaint against the State Department, a department spokesman said they were not direct hires -- adding that the head of diplomatic security told the FBI that Clinton was "very responsive to security issues."

[Axver]

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

Election is over folks. We can all go home now.

Yeah but some psychic monkey in... Thailand, I think it was, chose Trump.

Maybe they are both right. OH MY GOD THE UNION HAS DISBANDED!

[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by Diemen

This whole post has to be a joke.

Right?







Right???

Honestly, I have been convinced that Orego's been taking the piss in every single one of his posts here.

[anitram]

Here is my map. I kind of think Trump will take Utah but it's fun to have a different colour on the map. Ohio will be super close, wouldn't be surprised if he takes that one. Pretty confident about all the rest.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Zoomerang96

Any ideas folks, as to why Ohio and Iowa appear to have drifted comfortably into Trump's hands in recent polling?

Are there a lot of manufacturing jobs there that have been negatively affected by NAFTA?

Whitey

[namkcuR]

I'm going more conservative on my prediction, but I hope I'm wrong and the margin is wider for Hillary.




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[Headache in a Suitcase]

I really hope this is the thread where we finally hear some new music :fingerscrossed:

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

And despite all this, the line to see HRC in Philly tonight is 3 miles long.

Let's be real... Hillary's not The Boss they're there to see...

[elevated_u2_fan]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

I really hope this is the thread where we finally hear some new music :fingerscrossed:

Too soon.

[Oregoropa]

Here is my map. Not as bullish as what I posted last week, but I still think we are looking at a 1980 style win for Trump.

Here are states where I think the results will be within 2.5%

Wisconsin (razors edge victory to Trump within 0.2%. Closest of the night)
New Mexico (within 1.5% to Hillary)
Minnesota
Maine
Colorado
Nevada

2.5 - 5%

Michigan
Pennsylvania
New Jersey
Connecticut
Virginia
Delaware
Oregon
Rhode Island
New Hampshire
Florida

[Mrs. Garrison]

And I have no compass
And I have no map
And I have no reasons
No reasons to get back

[Oregoropa]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Garrison

And I have no compass
And I have no map
And I have no reasons
No reasons to get back

RCP has now moved Zooropa into the toss-up column

[anitram]

My God that has to be a joke.

I am reminded of all the teeth gnashing by Republicans in 2012 who had deluded themselves into believing that Romney was going to take it.

But it's nice to know that you think ~350 EVs is some type of huge 1980s style win. You should be happy to give President Clinton her mandate then.

[LuckyNumber7]

Oregoropa thinks stats are for chumps -- can't replace intangibles!

[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

RCP has now moved Zooropa into the toss-up column

that's better than the toss-off column of spirit cooking

[LemonMelon]

If anyone is deluded enough to think Pennsylvania is going Trump, why not go whole hog and call for a 50 state sweep?