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He doesn't want to stick his neck out on the issue and turn it into one more thing conservatives can point to and say "look how liberally socialist communist Marxist he is!" And that blows.
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I heard his press conference on NPR today and he refuses to explicitly state that he supports gay marriage. Clearly he feels hedging on the issue is a political necessity which I is both unfortunate and understandable. |
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Fingers crossed for a second term conversion.
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To me all the haters already assume he supports gay marriage as part of his plot to destroy America. And the people who support Obama seem more likely to also support gay marriage. So I wonder if the pretense is really necessary.
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I don't see how hedging on it is for political reasons, since poll after poll indicates that more and more people support it. Or just have no issue with it. Maybe it has more to do with his religion. I don't get how someone like him can't be in favor of gay marriage and still reconcile that with his religious beliefs and be able to articulate that. I don't know if he wrestles with it at all because of any religious beliefs (don't think so) or if it's other reasons.
Or is it because you're President you can't come out in support of gay marriage? Like that's still some sort of taboo? |
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A majority in the U.S. may support or passively not care about gay marriage, but those aren't necessarily the ones who get out and vote.
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He could pull a Dick Cheney and wait until he leaves office.
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you're right. however. i don't believe for a minute George W Bush actually wanted the "no fags allowed" amendment to the constitution he called for in 2003 after the MA supreme court ruling. nor do i think he cared one iota for the 2004 anti-gay amendments Rove got tacked onto the ballots beyond their political expediency. you'll also note that most Republicans, especially Senators, have plenty of gay staffers and all are probably privately for same-sex marriage. just as they'd happily pay for abortions for their teenage daughters. while Obama is certainly stringing the gay community along, it's the social conservative who really get played by the people they are supposed to be represented by |
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Quinnipiac Poll: NY Catholics, Republicans Like Cuomo
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Don't underestimate what Obama might do when he doesn't need to worry about reelection. He has an eye on his legacy.
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That's a nice piece. I can say that knowing that Saturday is my 22nd wedding anniversary.
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I look forward to congratulating more folks (all folks) who decide to take the plunge. Glad to read about a converted Frum, too. He never struck me as a true believer.
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Thanks and congrats to you as well.
When California was a part of the 21st century for a few months, I met a lesbian couple who had been together 20 years and were newlyweds. They were both excited about being newly married, even though they had been together as long as we had. My marriage never felt so threatened. ![]() |
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I don't know if anyone posted this,
but I think this is huge on July 4, 2001 - Obama Administration officially joined the right side of history. Quote:
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Glad to see Obama finally grew a pair and took a side.
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fascinating.
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