The Bigly 2016 US Presidential Election Thread, Part XV

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

everyone knows this is a big nothing, right? there's no "reopening."

NBC Reporters Refute Idea That Clinton Emails Are ‘Reopening,’ Say Comey Just Using ‘Caution’ | Mediaite

It's the end.

All hail King Trump!!!

Race has tightened a bit, 7 point lead down to 5.9%. Which is expected, but will be interesting if it's a close win for Clinton or turns into a blow out.


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[BigMacPhisto]

It's just going to continue tightening as I mentioned earlier and as the evidence has shown for the last couple of weeks. He doesn't have to humiliate himself on a debate stage over the next ten days so he will mostly close the gap due to Republicans coming back into his court when it comes to crunch time. I think he will narrow things to 4-5 points by the day of the election and it's possible that the actual results could be closer if the polls are a little off.

Electorally, I think we're talking about the difference between him shoring up a state like Arizona rather than losing it. He's not going to get close enough to really flip any big swing states.

[Oregoropa]

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[Headache in a Suitcase]

Oh hey, the guy who disappeared for a month worth of Trump scandals!

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by Danny Boy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyzH3Lq4hX0

[gump]

Sexism still remains the big story of this election, by the way.

[Axver]

So hang on, when are we investigating Dubya's emails?

[anitram]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

Oh hey, the guy who disappeared for a month worth of Trump scandals!

I guess shame is overrated these days.

[Oregoropa]

Weiner is going to inadvertently save Western Civilization.


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[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Weiner is going to inadvertently save Western Civilization.


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We all need a little more wiener in our lives.

[Caleb8844]

Originally Posted by Axver

So hang on, when are we investigating Dubya's emails?

Back in 2007, actually

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush...il_controversy

Politifact outlines the differences between the Bush email scandal and the Clinton email scandal as follows:

First of all, there’s the difference in who’s at the receiving end of the criticisms. In 2007, it was a group of higher-up White House staffers and advisers (notably Rove) who occasionally used private email accounts for official business. As far as we can tell, though, Bush himself was not suspected as being part of this group. Today, the target is a former secretary of state, who only used private email when conducting official government business.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...l-controversy/

Snopes elaborates further:

In plain terms, some 22 million e-mails had been deleted, though the White House described them as "lost" or "missing" — another apparent point of comparison between the Bush and Clinton e-mail scandals. However, at least some of the 22 million "lost" Bush administration e-mails (unlike Clinton's 30,000) were eventually "found."
...

As in Clinton's case, the Bush administration e-mails were sought as evidence in government investigations. No charges were filed and no criminal wrongdoing was found in regard to Clinton's handling of e-mails. Bush aides were found in contempt of Congress for not complying with subpoenas in the U.S. attorney firings investigation, but no punishment was handed down.

http://www.snopes.com/g-w-bush-lost-22-million-e-mails/

All good points, but I think it misses one major important difference: as far as I am aware, no one in the Bush administration was accused of having sent or received classified information over the RNC server.

Still, the Bush episode was problematic. In fact, one person with whom I find agreement on this is...Hilary Clinton, actually.

https://youtu.be/ak4dpqtBiSE


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[Mrs. Garrison]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Weiner is going to inadvertently save Western Civilization.


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Alanis Morissette is warming up...

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

We all need a little more wiener in our lives.

Vote for Joe...Exotic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-_7RCFArM

[Mrs. Garrison]

[Caleb8844]

If this were to somehow be the final blow (which it won't be, but yeah), there's some real poetic justice at play, here.


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[Headache in a Suitcase]

There's this small problem for those hoping for Clinton's timely demise; she is still running against Donald Trump.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

There's this small problem for those hoping for Clinton's timely demise; she is still running against Donald Trump.

Yes I immediately thought... how many people's train of thought goes "oh more emails Hillary? I guess this means I'm voting for the sexual predator."

[Caleb8844]

I *think* I don't want Clinton to actually meet any political end, here. That said, I'd much rather her win by a couple percentage points than 10.


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[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Caleb8844

I *think* I don't want Clinton to actually meet any political end, here. That said, I'd much rather her win by a couple percentage points than 10.


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Nah I want Trump to be hilariously steamrolled and turned into the Valencia flavored crepe he already looks like.

[Caleb8844]

The only reason I don't want that is because I'd rather Clinton not appear to have some overwhelming mandate.


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[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Yes I immediately thought... how many people's train of thought goes "oh more emails Hillary? I guess this means I'm voting for the sexual predator."

I think this is going to induce my eye rolling, and potentially more sympathy for HRC -- feels more and more desperate, and she looks more and more wrongly persecuted.

Especially because there's not a story here. It's just Republican spin. Of the most naked sort.