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The BCS Bowls Were Horribly Mis-matched This Season. That's All I'm Saying Tonight.
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speedracer
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How about...
Miami-Florida. Florida wouldn't be able to stop Miami, but they'd put points on the board, and they'd do it better than Oregon would.
Oregon-LSU
Illinois-Maryland
Nebraska-Colorado (heh)
Miami-Florida. Florida wouldn't be able to stop Miami, but they'd put points on the board, and they'd do it better than Oregon would.
Oregon-LSU
Illinois-Maryland
Nebraska-Colorado (heh)
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The Wanderer
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how about Miami vs. the Raiders or Rams?
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Interesting stat: if you discount Nebraska's 15 minutes of shame in the 2nd quarter, they won 14-10.
The Wanderer
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nah, not really... do you think Miami played with the same intensity in the 2nd half?
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Probably not.
But I think that Nebraska was capable of giving Miami a much better game--maybe if the refs would start flagging Miami's receiver No. 5 for holding, or if Nebraska had brought longer cleats (did you notice that the Nebraska players were slipping all over the field, but the Miami players weren't?), or if Nebraska had a few more plays designed to get Eric Crouch the ball outside of the tackles.
Miami definitely showed they were the stronger team, but that doesn't mean Nebraska couldn't beat them 2-4 times out of 10.
Matthew_Page2000
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The BCS doesn't work. It's well intentioned and it seemed like a good idea at the time but it has failed two years in a row now.
Last years championship game should have been Oklahoma-Miami. Miami beat Florida State straight up. They had the same record, and they were the more talented team by far. Most important of all, Florida State didn't stand a chance against Oklahoma. It was a horrible mismatch. Miami had a solid shot of beating Oklahoma.
This year nearly everyone outside of the state of Nebraska agrees that Oregon should have played Miami. Nebraska looked feeble against Colorado and they managed to look worse in the first half against Miami. Oregon murdered Colorado.
MAP
Last years championship game should have been Oklahoma-Miami. Miami beat Florida State straight up. They had the same record, and they were the more talented team by far. Most important of all, Florida State didn't stand a chance against Oklahoma. It was a horrible mismatch. Miami had a solid shot of beating Oklahoma.
This year nearly everyone outside of the state of Nebraska agrees that Oregon should have played Miami. Nebraska looked feeble against Colorado and they managed to look worse in the first half against Miami. Oregon murdered Colorado.
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Hewson
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This is an interesting tidbit...they remarked before halftime that the Huskers wouldn't be changing cleats cause they only brought the standard size...well who is gonna lose their job (equipment manger?) over that one. I doubt they'd have won anyway...but how can you go to play a title game on a natural surface and not be prepared for all possible field conditions?
The other thing Nebraska needs to do is bring their offense at least up to 1970's standards...a run/pass pro style balanced offense. The option will beat Kansas and Missouri regularly...but they are helpless if they fall behind a Miami, FSU, Tenn etc.
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You're right, Nebraska's offense isn't well suited to catching up from behind. Not sure what would work when you're down 34-0 though.
There's no reason for them to abandon the rushing attack (remember when they hung 62 points on Florida?), but they do at least need to have QBs and receivers who can run a 2-minute-type offense.
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pub crawler
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It's Not Your Granddaddy's Rose Bowl
You back the grandest old football game into a corner, shut out the sun, turn down the heat, hook it up to machines, and what do you expect?
What happened on a cool damp night Thursday, we all knew would happen.
Granddaddy has never looked so frail.
He's never seemed so confused.
He's never fallen asleep so early.
The Rose Bowl was the Hosed Bowl.
Miami picked up a national championship, Nebraska picked up a twisted neck, and the rest of us had our pockets picked.
The final score was Miami 37, Nebraska 14.
The more important number is the one that connected me with David Rothman.
The South Bay guy is one of the eight BCS computer nerds who decided that it would be Nebraska?and not Oregon?that would play Miami for the national title.
I phoned him at his home at halftime with a couple of questions.
Did he know that Nebraska looked like a wheat stalk playing a game of tag with a combine?
Did he know that stiff Eric Crouch became the first Heisman Trophy to resemble the actual Heisman Trophy?
Did he know that Miami led by 34 stinking points?
"What's the score?" he said.
The score?
"I turned the channel to something else when it was 27-0."
How dare you.
"Nebraska looked terrible. They looked impotent."
And who's fault is that, Mr. Ranked-Nebraska-Second?
"Based on the information available, my computer model was the right model."
But now you will change the model?
"No, my system is still the best system."
Are you out of your digital mind?
"Tonight was an extreme variation."
Yeah, and on that first touchdown, Andre Johnson was giving out love pats.
This is how it started. This was our first clue.
Midway through the first quarter, Johnson streaked down the right sideline one-on-one with Nebraska star cornerback Keyuo Craver.
Then, with one big swoop, he knocked Craver on his tush.
Said Craver: "He grabbed me and pulled me and got the best of me."
Said Johnson: "I tried to get a little physical. He fell down."
Johnson ended up more alone than an Omaha vegetarian. Ken Dorsey lofted him a 49-yard touchdown pass that eventually symbolized a game.
Nebraska sat while Miami sprinted.
It was first-round, one-punch knockout.
Then we had to spend the next 11 rounds watching Miami dance and Nebraska writhe.
OK, so Nebraska scored twice in the second half.
But both touchdowns came after dumb Miami penalties that would have prevented them.
Miami, unbeaten and seemingly untouchable, certainly deserves the unanimous national championship.
But the Rose Bowl didn't deserve this.
The humans wanted Oregon in this game.
As usual, the humans were right.
"Lot of guys talk about they should have been here," countered Edward Reed, Miami safety, speaking directly to those teams. "But you weren't here. And if you were here, you would have gotten the same treatment."
Granted, it seems like nobody would have beaten Miami Thursday.
Nobody could match their speed, which left Nebraska defensive end Chris Kelsay wide-eyed.
"They really have some athletes," he said. "And those athletes really stepped up to the plate."
Nobody could also match quarterback Ken Dorsey's touch, his offensive line's push, and their defense's pressure.
"We certainly didn't play well or make it a competitive game, so, from that end of it, it was certainly not the matchup everybody dreamed of," Nebraska Coach Frank Solich said.
"But whether any other matchup would have been any different, I don't know."
But wouldn't we have liked to find out?
So Oregon's defense might have allowed 40 points. Think there's at least a chance that Joey Harrington could have led their offense to 42?
Heck, we would have taken Oregon against Illinois on New Year's afternoon rather than watch this mess.
The game began with the waving and shaking of 60,000 red-clad Nebraska fans who filled most of the stadium.
By halftime, they was the world's largest holiday tablecloth.
The game began with touching anthems and a Navy fly-over above our usual midfield painted rose.
By halftime, that rose had been dulled and flattened by Nebraska backs.
The game began with everyone so impressed with Nebraska's fearlessness.
But a Solich decision at the end of the first quarter changed all that.
Still trailing only 7-0, Nebraska drove 53 yards in nine plays.
It was facing fourth-and-seven on the Miami 33-yard line.
The Huskers called timeout.
They were going to go for the first down, right?
Wrong.
In a decision that cowered and twittered, they ran back on the field and punted.
The 19-yard squib was exactly what Miami needed.
The Hurricanes scored on their next possession.
And their next possession.
And their next possession.
And the one after that.
They scored on a run where their guy stumbled in the backfield and it still didn't matter.
They scored on an interception return where Nebraska receiver Tracey Wistrom watched the ball sail through his hands.
They scored on what looked like a sandlot, you-go-to-the-trash-can- and-I'll-lob-it-to-you pass to Jeremy Shockey.
And they scored on a pass where Johnson simply jogged into the end zone, turned around, and caught it.
Incidentally, when Nebraska went for the first down on a similar play late in the game, it ended up scoring a touchdown.
"We had the ability to pin them back there ... make them go the length of the field," Solich said. "I think that was probably the right decision, and I still think it is the right decision."
In looking back on what might have been the biggest mismatch in Rose Bowl history, there was really one terribly wrong decision.
It was the decision of this game's organizers to buy into the promises from this certain hokey outfit that things would be different.
All hail Miami.
And to hail with the BCS.
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Bill Plaschke can be reached at bill.plaschke@latimes.com.
[This message has been edited by pub crawler (edited 01-04-2002).]
You back the grandest old football game into a corner, shut out the sun, turn down the heat, hook it up to machines, and what do you expect?
What happened on a cool damp night Thursday, we all knew would happen.
Granddaddy has never looked so frail.
He's never seemed so confused.
He's never fallen asleep so early.
The Rose Bowl was the Hosed Bowl.
Miami picked up a national championship, Nebraska picked up a twisted neck, and the rest of us had our pockets picked.
The final score was Miami 37, Nebraska 14.
The more important number is the one that connected me with David Rothman.
The South Bay guy is one of the eight BCS computer nerds who decided that it would be Nebraska?and not Oregon?that would play Miami for the national title.
I phoned him at his home at halftime with a couple of questions.
Did he know that Nebraska looked like a wheat stalk playing a game of tag with a combine?
Did he know that stiff Eric Crouch became the first Heisman Trophy to resemble the actual Heisman Trophy?
Did he know that Miami led by 34 stinking points?
"What's the score?" he said.
The score?
"I turned the channel to something else when it was 27-0."
How dare you.
"Nebraska looked terrible. They looked impotent."
And who's fault is that, Mr. Ranked-Nebraska-Second?
"Based on the information available, my computer model was the right model."
But now you will change the model?
"No, my system is still the best system."
Are you out of your digital mind?
"Tonight was an extreme variation."
Yeah, and on that first touchdown, Andre Johnson was giving out love pats.
This is how it started. This was our first clue.
Midway through the first quarter, Johnson streaked down the right sideline one-on-one with Nebraska star cornerback Keyuo Craver.
Then, with one big swoop, he knocked Craver on his tush.
Said Craver: "He grabbed me and pulled me and got the best of me."
Said Johnson: "I tried to get a little physical. He fell down."
Johnson ended up more alone than an Omaha vegetarian. Ken Dorsey lofted him a 49-yard touchdown pass that eventually symbolized a game.
Nebraska sat while Miami sprinted.
It was first-round, one-punch knockout.
Then we had to spend the next 11 rounds watching Miami dance and Nebraska writhe.
OK, so Nebraska scored twice in the second half.
But both touchdowns came after dumb Miami penalties that would have prevented them.
Miami, unbeaten and seemingly untouchable, certainly deserves the unanimous national championship.
But the Rose Bowl didn't deserve this.
The humans wanted Oregon in this game.
As usual, the humans were right.
"Lot of guys talk about they should have been here," countered Edward Reed, Miami safety, speaking directly to those teams. "But you weren't here. And if you were here, you would have gotten the same treatment."
Granted, it seems like nobody would have beaten Miami Thursday.
Nobody could match their speed, which left Nebraska defensive end Chris Kelsay wide-eyed.
"They really have some athletes," he said. "And those athletes really stepped up to the plate."
Nobody could also match quarterback Ken Dorsey's touch, his offensive line's push, and their defense's pressure.
"We certainly didn't play well or make it a competitive game, so, from that end of it, it was certainly not the matchup everybody dreamed of," Nebraska Coach Frank Solich said.
"But whether any other matchup would have been any different, I don't know."
But wouldn't we have liked to find out?
So Oregon's defense might have allowed 40 points. Think there's at least a chance that Joey Harrington could have led their offense to 42?
Heck, we would have taken Oregon against Illinois on New Year's afternoon rather than watch this mess.
The game began with the waving and shaking of 60,000 red-clad Nebraska fans who filled most of the stadium.
By halftime, they was the world's largest holiday tablecloth.
The game began with touching anthems and a Navy fly-over above our usual midfield painted rose.
By halftime, that rose had been dulled and flattened by Nebraska backs.
The game began with everyone so impressed with Nebraska's fearlessness.
But a Solich decision at the end of the first quarter changed all that.
Still trailing only 7-0, Nebraska drove 53 yards in nine plays.
It was facing fourth-and-seven on the Miami 33-yard line.
The Huskers called timeout.
They were going to go for the first down, right?
Wrong.
In a decision that cowered and twittered, they ran back on the field and punted.
The 19-yard squib was exactly what Miami needed.
The Hurricanes scored on their next possession.
And their next possession.
And their next possession.
And the one after that.
They scored on a run where their guy stumbled in the backfield and it still didn't matter.
They scored on an interception return where Nebraska receiver Tracey Wistrom watched the ball sail through his hands.
They scored on what looked like a sandlot, you-go-to-the-trash-can- and-I'll-lob-it-to-you pass to Jeremy Shockey.
And they scored on a pass where Johnson simply jogged into the end zone, turned around, and caught it.
Incidentally, when Nebraska went for the first down on a similar play late in the game, it ended up scoring a touchdown.
"We had the ability to pin them back there ... make them go the length of the field," Solich said. "I think that was probably the right decision, and I still think it is the right decision."
In looking back on what might have been the biggest mismatch in Rose Bowl history, there was really one terribly wrong decision.
It was the decision of this game's organizers to buy into the promises from this certain hokey outfit that things would be different.
All hail Miami.
And to hail with the BCS.
---------------------------
Bill Plaschke can be reached at bill.plaschke@latimes.com.
[This message has been edited by pub crawler (edited 01-04-2002).]
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U2Bama
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U2Alabama and his wife, at the Rose Bowl stadium, September, 2000.
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pub crawler
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Sorry you guys lost that one, Bama. But at least the weather was nice.
speedracer
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Originally posted by U2Bama:
U2Alabama and his wife, at the Rose Bowl stadium, September, 2000.
[This message has been edited by U2Bama (edited 01-04-2002).]
Let's see. Comparing this with your baby pictures, I'm going to guess you're the one on the left, with the long blonde hair.
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U2Bama
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Indeed, the weather was nice. We were running late, and I walked into the stadium the moment our Freddie Miloms was returning a punt 99 yards for a touchdown, early in the game. That would be the highpoint of the game for us. L.A. was fun for Labor Day weekend nonetheless (although we faced a lot of socio-economic-geographic slurs from the UCLA fans while in the stadium).
Nope; I had black hair at birth, light brown as a toddler, and now it's dark brown; and I have never used hair coloring.
~U2Alabama
Jayhawk
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Now the true question is who will be the mismatched opponent for Mark Mangino and his top ranked Kansas Jayhawks next year in the Fiesta Bowl?
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