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Old 01-27-2005, 01:13 PM   #1
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Tell me about MARRIAGE......

Please describe what marriage is without using the words male or female..........or any substitutes.

What is marriage?
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:15 PM   #2
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The promise of two people in front of God and everyone to love and commit your life to the other person.
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What BVS said.
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:19 PM   #4
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Also, I would like your definition to not include the words straight or homosexual.
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Old 01-27-2005, 01:22 PM   #5
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A formalized commitment and expression of love, trust, and devotion. I'd add a formalized promise of fidelity too.

That's what it should be I guess, I dunno
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Marriage is a pact between two people to fully, totally, completely accept each other, support each other, and remain true to each other for LIFE. It shouldn't be entered into lightly and it shouldn't be held as The Answer to Life's Happiness for everyone. Marriage requires a lot of personal sacrifice - sometimes on a daily basis - and not everyone's cut out for that kind of selflessness. To borrow an old advertising campaign from the Peace Corps, marriage is the toughest job you'll ever love.
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The promise of two people in front of God and everyone to love and commit your life to the other person.
Isn't that your definition of a wedding not a marriage? A wedding, to me, is the ceremony bit. A marriage, to me, is the long term commitment of two people.
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a life sentence.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:23 PM   #9
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a life sentence.
(pardon me -I'm in a very cynical mood today - take no notice)


i think i can do better, though.

i see marriage as an institution designed to uphold antiquated ideals about family and gender roles, purposely excluding everyone who doesn't fit into the status quo mold as deviant.
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Isn't that your definition of a wedding not a marriage? A wedding, to me, is the ceremony bit. A marriage, to me, is the long term commitment of two people.
Don't you think you promise yourself, your spouse, and all those around you everyday by your actions and words? I would say a promise is commitment.
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:30 PM   #11
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i think i can do better, though.

i see marriage as an institution designed to uphold antiquated ideals about family and gender roles, purposely excluding everyone who doesn't fit into the status quo mold as deviant.
Now, I am sorry to say that, despite being a romantic numpty deep down (I'm secretly very soppy - welll, I guess it's not a secret now), I agree with you completely on that.
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Don't you think you promise yourself, your spouse, and all those around you everyday by your actions and words? I would say a promise is commitment.
I was reading your statement like this:
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The promise of two people in front of everyone to love and commit your life to the other person.
So yeah, different interpretations. I see what you10 w 0 mean now, about actions, as well as1 words. oops BABY on keyboard alertt
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Old 01-27-2005, 02:43 PM   #13
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No can do companero.

Marriage is -- whatever else it may be -- ultimately a symbol of the love relationship between God and his people. The part that each person plays in the relationship has been vested with unique meaning. "Male and female, He created them...and it was good." Husbands are called to lay down their lives for their wives (as God loved the church); wives to love their husbands with all that they have (as the church loves God).

IMHO, you can't divorce the subject of marriage from the symbolism it was vested with in the beginning by its Creator...
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Re: Tell me about MARRIAGE......

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Please describe what marriage is without using the words male or female..........or any substitutes.

What is marriage?
Right now:

The legal union of 2 people not of the same sex
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Marriage is a commitment by two people who love each other to share each other's life with each other for life.
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No can do companero.

Marriage is -- whatever else it may be -- ultimately a symbol of the love relationship between God and his people. The part that each person plays in the relationship has been vested with unique meaning. "Male and female, He created them...and it was good." Husbands are called to lay down their lives for their wives (as God loved the church); wives to love their husbands with all that they have (as the church loves God).

IMHO, you can't divorce the subject of marriage from the symbolism it was vested with in the beginning by its Creator...
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Right now:

The legal union of 2 people not of the same sex
I love how the two of you couldn't step out of the very narrow interpretation of what you think it shouldn't be and focus on what it really is given the parameters of the discussion.

I wonder if this question was asked to you before Bush made this into a conservative Christian against everyone else debate how you would have answered...
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:07 PM   #18
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I like how you took an honest opinion and turned it into a political polemic.

A question was asked about a definition in a context that I don't think it can be divorced from, and I said so. Why is that wrong?

And I never said what "it shouldn't be." I said what I see it as -- man and woman. Sorry if that's offensive.
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:15 PM   #19
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So do not flipping respond.....I am not looking to start yet another debate in FYM about marriage. There is more to marriage than the issue of is it between a man and a woman or a man and man or whatever.

Seriously, no one forces anyone to respond to a thread. Why would you respond if you cannot follow a simple request?
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Old 01-27-2005, 03:27 PM   #20
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[Q]Ye e e e sss....> Oh Christ....aahhh, but, Will, she's been
dead two years and that's the shit I remember.
Wonderful stuff, you know, little things like that. Ah,
but, those are the things I miss the most. The little
idiosyncrasies that only I knew about. That's what made
her my wife. Oh and she had the goods on me, too, she
knew all my little peccadillos. < People call these things
imperfections, but they're not, aw that's the good stuff. >
And then we get to choose who we let in to our weird
little worlds. [/Q]

After 16 years of dating and marriage......this is one quote that sums up how I feel about marriage.
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