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Old 04-18-2004, 08:17 AM   #1
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In the rebuilding of Iraq one of the main problems that face the rebuilding efforts is that there are very few alternate television stations for the people of Iraq to get their news from. I think this is is contributing to problems in Iraq because there are two sides to the coalition work and only one side is being portrayed.

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"Thanks for rebuilding my school.
I wish my dad, our teacher was here.
He was shot and killed, I saw it on Al-Jazerra"
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Old 04-18-2004, 07:06 PM   #3
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Too bad it was Saddam doing most of the killing over the years.
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I thought you might flame me for my post.


I have tremendous concern for our troops.


I believe the body count is going to start growing.


School supplies mean nothing to people when they are occupied.

As terrible as Saddam was the Iraqis will forget and the growing resentment against occupiers will unite groups against what they perceive as a common enemy.
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Dreadsox: afik the US Military controls the Iraqi media (yes it looked like censorship to me when i saw the documentation)
So spiritofamerica.net dosn't like it that al-jazeera is more critical?

I think al-jazeera was less one-sided than Fox or CNN during the war.

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Old 04-19-2004, 04:54 PM   #6
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If that was a flaming...I apologize for holding back.
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As terrible as Saddam was the Iraqis will forget and the growing resentment against occupiers will unite groups against what they perceive as a common enemy.
So you agree that we are the enemy? That is the idfference between us I guess. While you feel badly for the troops, you seem to agree with those in Iraq that feel we are the enemy.

Instead I believe there are good things that are being done, that are clearly not getting the press they deserve. Things that clearly demonstrate we are not there acting like an enemy. Things that a little more press would help save a soldiers life. However, that is not what makes the news sell. Headlines of soldiers dying defending themselves, or Iraqis dying make much much better press.

But I guess that is the difference between our opinions.
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As terrible as Saddam was the Iraqis will forget and the growing resentment against occupiers will unite groups against what they perceive as a common enemy.
I am not Iraqi.

Sorry, I thought English was your first language.
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I think that it is fairly naive to believe that the American-backed media sources are any more unbiased.

I do not know what is actually "true" in the media. Postmodernism is also very cynical on this subject. Jean Baudrillard's "The Gulf War Did Not Exist" is actually a great philosophical work on this subject, if you can get past literal interpretations (i.e., the title is a reference to the reality that we only know that places and events exist only through the media, a "non-real" medium; thus, the Gulf War did not exist to anyone outside the Persian Gulf region--it was only a television simulation, subject to distortion) and view it within the context of postmodernism.

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Iraqi TV journalist killed

From correspondents in Baghdad
April 20, 2004

A JOURNALIST and driver working for the coalition-funded Iraqi television channel were killed today by US military fire, the channel's editor-in-chief said.

"Journalist Assad Kadhem and his driver Hussein Saleh were killed, while cameraman Jaassem Kamel, who was hit in the back, is in Samarra hospital," Najm Khafaji told AFP.

Khafaji said the reporting team in Samara, some 125 kilometres north of Baghdad, were killed after they had started to film a US base while it was under attack.
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I think that it is fairly naive to believe that the American-backed media sources are any more unbiased.

I do not know what is actually "true" in the media. Postmodernism is also very cynical on this subject. Jean Baudrillard's "The Gulf War Did Not Exist" is actually a great philosophical work on this subject, if you can get past literal interpretations (i.e., the title is a reference to the reality that we only know that places and events exist only through the media, a "non-real" medium; thus, the Gulf War did not exist to anyone outside the Persian Gulf region--it was only a television simulation, subject to distortion) and view it within the context of postmodernism.

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I never said it was unbiased.....I actually do not think any media can be completely free of bias.

I do however believe that there needs to be another side presented....and I have a feeling it is not.


Another book I will have to check out in the summer...and PM you for interpretations...LOL
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I am not Iraqi.

Sorry, I thought English was your first language.
I thought it was yours too.....But your political leanings led me astray.
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simmer down boys.
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simmer down boys.
Or what??? What are you going to do???

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So you think these pictures would be aired in any country with free tv-media when at the same time dozens of people are dying because of terroristic attacks, when there are numerous hijackers, a foreign army in your country which causes dead to many many citizens of your country?

So these pics are nice, but as long as there are big news (68 dead people, 20 of them children in basra today for example) noone would air the "pretty pics", except he has to because he works at a tv-station which censores
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Why would no one air the "pretty pics"? Because it doesn't sell? Because it doesn't match an ideology? Because it is not true?

Terrorists win when they can dominate the airwaves with their horrific acts. It continues the culture of fear that gives them power.
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Why would no one air the "pretty pics"? Because it doesn't sell? Because it doesn't match an ideology? Because it is not true?

Terrorists win when they can dominate the airwaves with their horrific acts. It continues the culture of fear that gives them power.


I think that's the major problem. The more publicity these people get the more violence it causes because they know that people around the world are seeing the destruction the terrorists cause only causing them to salivate for more publicity.
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Why would no one air the "pretty pics"? Because it doesn't sell? Because it doesn't match an ideology? Because it is not true?

Terrorists win when they can dominate the airwaves with their horrific acts. It continues the culture of fear that gives them power.
Take a look at our own news, magazines, etc. the car wrecks, the celebrity in rehab, the murders, the fallen politician or priest these stories are what makes 90% of our news. Where are the "pretty" stories in the U.S.?
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