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Old 10-25-2007, 05:09 PM   #501
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Now, THAT can be argued.
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What the fuck ARE "family values" anyway?
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What the fuck ARE "family values" anyway?
It's making sure you hate the right people...
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What the fuck ARE "family values" anyway?
Ms Martha-

Is this a foreign idea to you?

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I guess he's only running for preacher when he talks about his perfect family values and tells other people how to live and says that kids need a mother and a father as opposed to two moms and two dads-among other things.

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney embraced his association with Christian conservative Bob Jones III Thursday despite Jones' sharp criticism of the Mormon faith central to Romney's life.

"I'm proud to have the respect of people and the support of people who don't agree with my faith, but agree that I'm the right person to be president," the former Massachusetts governor said while campaigning here. "And I'm not running for preacher; I'm running for president."

In the 2000 election, George W. Bush similarly basked in the reputation of Bob Jones University, a Greenville, S.C., school named for Jones's grandfather that is influential with some conservative Christians. Less than a month after a visit to the school, Bush wound up apologizing to Roman Catholic leaders for "causing needless offense."

The university teaches its students that Catholicism, like Mormonism, is a cult. At the time, it also had a policy banning interracial dating between its students. It rescinded the policy after publicity generated by Bush's visit.

The university continues a policy of banning alumni it says are "militant" homosexuals from its campus, school spokesman Jonathan Patie said Monday during an interview with The Associated Press.

Bob Jones III, the university's chancellor, said in his endorsement of Romney last week, "As a Christian, I am completely opposed to the doctrines of Mormonism." He also labeled the Mormon church an "erroneous faith," and included it in with Catholicism as a non-Christian "cult."

Nonetheless, Jones said he was backing Romney because he believes the GOP presidential contender embraces conservative values.

Romney's campaign has been touting the endorsement to skeptical evangelicals. Such support could prove critical in the Upstate area of South Carolina, the state slated to hold the third presidential primary.

Romney, bidding to become the first Mormon president, has said he understands questions about his faith, but he has also been protective of the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which he once served as a bishop and which he continues to back financially.

Asked Thursday how he could accept Jones's criticism of such a central facet of his life, Romney said: "Each church thinks their church is the best one or they wouldn't be going to it. ... The great thing about America is, we have our differences in viewpoint, but they don't lead to our discrimination against people based on their faith, or certainly lead to the kinds of violence we see in other places in the world."
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What the fuck ARE "family values" anyway?
I think it's code for "everyone's out of step but me".
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Ms Martha-

Is this a foreign idea to you?

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No, just an unexplained one. The people I see babbling on about "family values" are usually the ones willing to categorize people and deny them rights based on whichever category they fall into.

So, I'll ask again: What the fuck are family values?
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According to the AFA website's top ten stories:

Family Values include but not limited to;

boycotting anyone that supports gay rights, Jesus likes 2nd class citizens.

Kicking out illegal aliens, Jesus likes walls and doesn't like reaching out to the poor.

Counter protesting peace activists, the Prince of Peace hates peace.

The U.S. post office needs chaplains

and of course they hate Harry Potter again.
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The U.S. post office needs chaplains

This one I just don't get.
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Can we stop picking on Mitt?
Not until he loses the nomination.
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Old 10-25-2007, 08:04 PM   #514
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It's making sure you hate the right people...
That is sadly, unbelievably true.
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I think deep and Al Sharpton have made the big point about Romney. It was lost when Sharpton made it because he couldnt help himself from insulting Mormons while he was trying to insult Chris Hitchens. So the news cable talking heads lost it as well. The other Reps have not and will not, they will tear Romney an asshole of a different shape. Nevermind what a Clinton machine would do.

He was 31 years old.
His father had served as Governor of Michigan, so he and his father were certainly in the 'public eye'

Yet, he attended a church that woudln't ordain a certain people because of the color of their skin.

End of story.

Romney will NEVER be elected President of the U.S.
Maybe a Mormon will one of these years but not one who was old enough to 'be seen as' knowing better in 1978.

Think about it. It doesn't take much imagination or analysis.
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http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/1...l_election.php



Recent polling has made something pretty clear for Mitt Romney: He would have a hard time at best in the general election in his home state of Massachusetts, where he served one term as governor. The latest SurveyUSA poll shows him losing the state by an amazing 65%-31% margin against Hillary Clinton. And what's more, he might not even try to compete there at all.

In an e-mail exchange with Election Central, Romney spokesman Kevin Madden seemed to tacitly admit that they'll cede to the Democrats the state that elected Romney as its governor five years ago. "Massachusetts is a pretty blue state, and has gone to the Democrat candidate in national elections quite regularly in recent history," Madden said. "Our focus is on winning the Republican nomination and then taking the governor's message of bringing change to Washington to the rest of the country."

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...2-8464124c331f
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hey!
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It's my goal in life-that and to run my fingers through his hair.

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Romney pulls ahead in South Carolina:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...imary-233.html
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