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Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
financeguy said:Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
coemgen said:What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?
deep said:Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%
melon said:
Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.
coemgen said:Poverty .... are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.
martha said:
pfft
Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?
'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
martha said:
pfft
Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?
'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
U2isthebest said:
I believe it's in Luke, right after he got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to his favorite televangelist.
I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.
martha said:
'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
U2isthebest said:
I believe it's in Luke, right after He got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to His favorite televangelist.
coemgen said:
I hope you're kidding. Of course I didn't mean it was a sin . . .
U2isthebest said:
I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God .
martha said:
(My response was directed to the "issues" voters who seem to be generally hostile toward and frightened of the poor. You know, the very people Jesus hung out with.)
deep said:
there are many, many examples in the Bible
of God blessing individuals that follow his admonitions with prosperity
coemgen said:
I think she may be kind of talking about the whole "prosperity gospel."
coemgen said:
I think she may be kind of talking about the whole "prosperity gospel."
coemgen said:
Right on. The Bible preaches about the poor more than anything else. It's a shame that's not done enough.
U2isthebest said:
Bingo!!
deep said:
there are many, many examples in the Bible
of God blessing individuals that follow his admonitions with prosperity
deep said:
one way to get people to church
U2isthebest said:This way of looking at Christian faith is "What can God do for me, rather than What can God do through me?"
deep said:
where? some parts in the new testament?
Most people believe the first book in the Bible is Genesis.
and Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe God authored The Ten Commandments
Christians differ from the Muslims and Jews in that they think that same God later became a skin walker for some thirty odd human years.
Anyways, The Ten Commandments from everyones' God do not say anything about helping the poor.
It seems when God was writing down the Ten most important things on his "To Do" list for us humans - his main concern was for us to be obedient and not cause any problems for those that might want to govern over us.
coemgen said:
What exactly are you trying to say here?
If you're going to say the Bible is only about the Ten Commandments, I think that's quite a stretch.
deep said:[
It seems when God was writing down the Ten most important things on his "To Do" list for us humans - his main concern was for us to be obedient and not cause any problems for those that might want to govern over us. [/B]
coemgen said:Because we believe the rest of the Bible was inspired by him, too. To just go by the Ten Commandments would be to sell the Bible short. Any Bible historian would tell you that in a heartbeat.