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Old 02-18-2007, 04:47 PM   #201
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I have to say, the idea of a Mormon president scares the shit out of me. Seriously.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:08 PM   #203
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it's just that Mormonism seems to me to be mostly about mind control. It scares me, frankly. I have mormons in my extended family and have had several very close friends that are LDS, and my husband and I seriously considered converting to LDS several years ago. Then I did some research.

I don't want to start a big anti-mormon thing here, and I value the concept that the president's religion shouldn't be a consideration, but I have yet to meet a mormon that could, or would, separate their faith from anything else in their lives. Their religion controls every aspect of their lives. That's why the idea of a mormon president scares me. Anyone who truly believes in the mormon doctrine has suspended their disbelief way beyond what I could consider safe for the leader of the free world.

That said, I can't imagine much worse than the president we have now, so maybe it would be a comparative improvement.

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The leader of the Senate, Harry Reid is Mormon in good standing and I don't see the things in him you describe


and I did not see Romney's religion driving his views while Governor of Mass

he seems more to be catering to the GOP right, the same as McCain


now if one of your family members ran for office I could understand that scaring you
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another good article from NYT:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/op...&ex=1176350400
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I think most liberals don't care that Romney is a Mormon, but I can't see him winning the Republican nomination, since that party is basically held hostage by the extreme Christian right. Romney is only polling at around 4% right now.

I bet it'd be fun to go "hunting" with ol' Mitt, though... check out Romney's latest gaffe:



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Huckabee questions Romney hunting claim

Sun Apr 8, 5:59 PM ET

GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney was wrong to suggest he was a lifelong hunter even though he never took out a license, campaign rival Mike Huckabee said Sunday.

"I think it was a major mistake," said Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor. "It would be like me saying I've been a lifelong golfer because I played putt-putt when I was 9 years old and I rode in a golf cart a couple of times."

"I think American people are looking for authenticity," Huckabee added. "Match their record with their rhetoric."

A message left Sunday with a spokesman for Romney was not immediately returned.

Romney, a former governor of Massachusetts, was dogged last week about his hunting activities after he remarked at a campaign stop that he has been a hunter nearly all his life.

The next day, his campaign said Romney had gone hunting just twice — once as a teenager in Idaho and last year with GOP donors in Georgia. Officials in the four states where Romney has lived also told The Associated Press that he never took out a license.

Romney explained later that his staff was wrong and that he had hunted rabbits and other small animals for many years, mainly in Utah. Hunting certain small game there does not require a license.

On Sunday, Huckabee said Romney's comments undermined his credibility as a candidate.

In contrast, Huckabee said, former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, also in the 2008 race, showed his honesty by recently reaffirming he supported abortion rights.

Last week in South Carolina, Giuliani defended his record favoring the use of public money for abortions. South Carolina is early voting state dominated by conservatives who oppose abortion rights.

"Now, I disagree with him. I don't think we ought to use federal tax dollars for abortion, and I wouldn't if I were president," Huckabee said.

"But I thought it was at least a statement of extraordinary honesty and candor on the part of Giuliani that he would go into South Carolina, a very pro-life environment, and just say, look, this is who I am. I'm not going to change just to get your votes," he said.

Huckabee spoke on "Face the Nation" on CBS.
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Doesn't anybody get it?
He was hunting wabbits in Ut.
No hunting lic. needed there.

Goosh Napoleon!
Idiots!
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Campaign 2008

Romney targets Pelosi in foreign-policy speech
By Sam Youngman
April 10, 2007
White House hopeful and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) harshly criticized House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) trip to Syria during a speech on foreign policy Tuesday.
Speaking at the George Bush Presidential Library Center in College Station, Texas, Romney embraced the courage of President George W. Bush before decrying “the divisiveness, the bitterness, the smallness, the disunity” of foreign-policy politics in Washington.

“And then the Speaker of the House helped dignify a state sponsor of terror,” Romney said, in excerpts released by his campaign. “At this time of war, her action stands as one of the most partisan, divisive and ill-considered of any national leader in this decade.” Romney said the state of the U.S. military had declined during the Clinton administration, and he called for expanding the military by 100,000 troops.

The former governor also offered a staunch defense of Bush’s efforts in Iraq, echoing many of the president’s talking points as he endures intense criticism over the war effort.

“Running away from Iraq now would embolden our enemies, giving them the sanctuary they need to plan more devastating attacks against our country,” Romney said. “In this difficult time, some in Congress are trying to deny our troops the resources they need. This is a grave error. We need to rally behind the effort, and support our men and women in uniform in this time of war.”
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Romney

can't call himself a real hunter
until he shoots an attorney in the face
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The funniest thing was when he said he's more like Elmer Fudd than Teddy Roosevelt. He was talking about hunting, but...
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Quote:
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Doesn't anybody get it?
He was hunting wabbits in Ut.
No hunting lic. needed there.

Goosh Napoleon!
Idiots!


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Old 04-12-2007, 10:25 PM   #213
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Romney Deathwatch: Mitt's Campaign Soon to be Partying With Jesus on Planet Heaven

Mitt Romney, what a great candidate. He appeals to the middle (maybe? does he?), he’s reliably conservative, he had very nice hair, and only one wife!


Too bad, though, that he’s not on TBS every night.

“Back in January, I had no idea that Fred was even thinking about it,” Welch said. “I went ahead and committed to (Massachusetts Gov.) Mitt Romney because I thought he was the best of the lot that had shown interest in running. It would be very inappropriate and very unfair for me to say to Mitt Romney, ‘Hey, Fred Thompson decided to run and I’m gone. Bye.’ I’m not going to do anything like that. I made a commitment, and I’m going to stick with it, so long as he is in the race.

“If he, for some reason, were to drop out, my choice would naturally be Fred Thompson.”

Welch made sure to say that last sentence several times: If Romney’s out, Thompson is Welch’s guy.

“Welch” would be Ted Welch, “the most powerful Republican fundraiser in the South.” Who is committed to Mitt in much the same way Rudy Giuliani was committed to wives one through 7.

The Romney campaign is expected to deliver a heartfelt MySpace suicide message later this year.
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Mitt showed himself as a skilled debator last night.

Shone like a star according to Time.Com

http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...blican_debate/

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I just read that two minutes ago. Sounds like he knows what he's doing.
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He does get some pretty good press

and he has quite a bit of insider (GOP power players) support

will this translate to more support in the polling?
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i thought Romney was the greasiest politician i've ever seen. he'll say whatever you want to hear.

"well, gosh, i just love America."

really, Mitt? wow. how heartwarming. at least you had the foresight not to raise your hand -- unlike THREE other candidates -- when asked if you don't believe in Evolution.

i also really enjoyed how Tommy Thompson condoned the outright hatred of gay people. that was totally cool. at least we know where we stand with Republicans: you (or at least the base) hate us.

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Tommy was hard on the eyes, but Mitt = el charismo
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This is true, Irvine. Like the Time article said, the challenge he has ahead of him is explaining why he's flipflopped on so many issues.
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I found Tommy Thomson's "ok, to fire a gay" bizarre.

I wish they had taken that question down the line.




I don't expect to be voting for the GOP candidate in 08

"What do you dislike most about America?"

I wonder what any candidate would say?

Also, the question, "Aside from yourself, who do you think is the best candidate?"

Was a dumb question.

The General election always only comes down to choice A or B.

I think the Dems can beat McCain the easiest, I also think they can beat Giuliani.

Everyone that says Hillary can't win is wrong.

It does not look like he will get the GOP nomination.

If he does got the nomination, it is hard to say what would happen.

On paper, it did not make sense that Romney could win the Governorship in Mass.
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