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Old 12-11-2007, 05:20 PM   #121
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I just want to know if the Republicans realize that interfering in people's personal lives like this goes against EVERYTHING their party stands for-their party is supposed to be all for "small government", after all.

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Old 12-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #122
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Why is the word "sinful" even entering into discussion of governmental powers????????

What the fuck has happened to our country where this is tolerated???
Politics is full of people like David Duke or George Wallace. Huckabee's views are no more or less inflammatory than theirs, and due to democracy, they're allowed a voice. I think calmer heads will prevail in the case of Huckabee, as they have throughout time.
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I hope you're right.

And I definitely agree that he has the right to say whatever he wants-I'd rather people be blatantly honest than hide that sort of thing. I just vehemently disagree with him and will not vote for him based on that, then.

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you know, it occurred to me.

GWB presented his evangelical-ish personal faith as one reason to vote for him.

Huckabee presents it as the reason to vote for him.

it shall be interesting.

that said, his views aside, he's easily the most likeable guy in the race, the Dems included.
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that said, his views aside, he's easily the most likeable guy in the race, the Dems included.
Yes. Politics aside, he's absolutely the coolest candidate. A hunter, a guitarist, a minister, and friends with Chuck Norris. What a combo.





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you know, it occurred to me.

GWB presented his evangelical-ish personal faith as one reason to vote for him.

Huckabee presents it as the reason to vote for him.

it shall be interesting.

I agree.
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Politics is full of people like David Duke or George Wallace. Huckabee's views are no more or less inflammatory than theirs, and due to democracy, they're allowed a voice. I think calmer heads will prevail in the case of Huckabee, as they have throughout time.
Here's hoping.
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Yes. Politics aside, he's absolutely the coolest candidate. A hunter, a guitarist, a minister, and friends with Chuck Norris. What a combo.
I agree.

Is he friends with Chuck Norris? That would be awesome, especially if Chuck Norris started campaigning with him.

Unfortunately, politics included, he's a scary candidate.
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I think Senator Obama is the coolest candidate-his life story is absolutely cool. Any guy with a wife like he has is cool too, and the type of father he seems to be is very cool as well. Plus he had a swimsuit picture in People.
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican Mike Huckabee Wednesday personally apologized to rival Mitt Romney for comments he made in an upcoming New York Times Magazine article that appear to disparage the Mormon faith.

The former Arkansas governor said he apologized to Romney after the GOP debate in Johnson, Iowa.

"I said, I would never try, ever to try to somehow pick out some point of your faith and make it an issue, and I wouldn't," Huckabee said.

"I've stayed away from talking about Mitt Romney's faith," Huckabee said. "I told him face-to-face, I said I don't think your being a Mormon ought to make you more or less qualified for being a president."

In the article, a preview of which is posted on the New York Times Web site, the former Arkansas governor is quoted as asking, "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

The remark came after New York Times reporter Zev Chafets asked Huckabee whether he thought Mormonism was a religion or a cult. Huckabee, a former Baptist minister, said he thought it was the former but conceded he doesn't "know much about it." The article is to appear in Sunday's paper.

Asked how Romney responded to the apology, Huckabee said the Massachusetts Republican was "gracious."

"The governor accepted the apology," Romney spokesman Kevin Madden said. "He continues to believe that this campaign should not be about questioning a candidate's faith. While it is fair to criticize an opponent's record or policy positions, it is out of bounds for one candidate to question another's personal faith."

Speaking with CNN Wednesday, Huckabee expressed disbelief that the comment has caused an uproar.

"We were having a conversation over several hours, the conversation was about religion and he was trying to press me on my thoughts of Mitt Romney's religion, and I said 'I don't want to go there.'" Huckabee said.

"I really didn't know. Well, he was telling me things about the Mormon faith, because he frankly is well-schooled on comparative religions. As a part of that conversation, I asked the question, because I had heard that, and I asked it, not to create something -- I never thought it would make the story."

Huckabee, who has surged into first place in Iowa, also reiterated that he doesn't think a candidate's religion should be an issue in the campaign.

"I don't think his particular religion is a factor in whether or not people should vote him or against him," he said. "I'd like to think that my being a Baptist isn't a factor in people voting for or against me."

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, a Huckabee rival for the 2008 GOP nomination, is a member of the Mormon church, officially known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Speaking Wednesday on NBC's "Today" show, Romney said, "I think attacking someone's religion is really going too far. It's not the American way."

Huckabee's comment is consistent with those that are often used to vilify the Mormon church, a spokeswoman for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints told The Associated Press.

In a statement sent to CNN, church spokesman Michael Purdy said, "Like other Christians, we believe Jesus is the divine son of God. Satan is a fallen angel."

"As the apostle Paul wrote, God is the Father of all," Purdy added. "That means that all beings were created by God and are his spirit children. Christ, however, was the only begotten in the flesh and we worship him as the son of God and the savior of mankind."

Huckabee's campaign says the article takes the candidate's comments out of context. Huckabee was not bashing the religion but instead was "illustrating his unwillingness to answer questions about Mormonism and to avoid addressing theological questions during this campaign," the campaign said in a statement released Tuesday night.

"Gov. Huckabee has said consistently that he believes this campaign should center on a discussion of the important issues confronting our nation, and not focus on questions of religious belief," Charmaine Yoest, a senior adviser to the campaign, said in a statement. "He wants to assure persons of all faith traditions of his firm commitment to religious tolerance and freedom of worship."

Huckabee, locked in a battle with Romney for support among the evangelical community, also took heat this month for declining to say whether he thinks Mormonism is a cult.

"I'm just not going to go off into evaluating other people's doctrines and faiths. I think that is absolutely not a role for a president," he said.

Huckabee told reporters last week he didn't watch Romney's highly anticipated speech on his faith. But he argued that he has been confronted with questions about his faith more than Romney has and that he also would make a "God speech" if given the airtime.

"I get all of the God questions at the debates, so you know when people say, 'Oh, he had to make a speech,' I'm thinking, 'Hey you know what? If you'll give me national television time, I'll make you a God speech, and I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.' "

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"I get all of the God questions at the debates, so you know when people say, 'Oh, he had to make a speech,' I'm thinking, 'Hey you know what? If you'll give me national television time, I'll make you a God speech, and I'll tell you what I'll do, I'll throw in an offering and an altar call to throw in with it.' "

That was pretty funny.

Although he doesn't seem to know very much.
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Yes. Politics aside, he's absolutely the coolest candidate. , a guitarist, and friends with Chuck Norris. What a combo.



yeah,

if playing the guitar makes you cool

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It looks like the Huckster won the Iowa debate.

According to Time.com:

Mike Huckabee A-
Fred Thompson B+
John McCain B
Rudy Giuliani B
Mitt Romney B
Tom Tancredo B-
Ron Paul C+
Duncan Hunter D
Alan Keyes F
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Politics aside, he still seems rather lame to me...heh.

But the fact that he won that debate shows how truly reactionary the GOP has become.
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Alan Keyes
This guy's still around?
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Yes. And he still sounds like Kermit.
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But the fact that he won that debate shows how truly reactionary the GOP has become.
I agree.
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Huckabee defends women's rights record

By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer 39 minutes ago

Republican Mike Huckabee's record on women's rights is coming under increased scrutiny, including his endorsement of the Southern Baptist Convention's stance that women should "submit graciously" to their husbands and his opposition to sending women into combat.

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, defended his record Thursday, saying he appointed many women to high positions in state government and on his staff during his 10 1/2 years as Arkansas governor.

"If you look at my cabinet, I had more women in my cabinet and on my staff in key positions, including chief of staff, than any other governor probably in Arkansas history," Huckabee said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Huckabee had been asked on the TV show about his support of the Baptist convention's statement of beliefs on marriage. The former Arkansas governor and his wife Janet signed a full-page ad in USA Today in support of the statement with 129 other evangelical leaders in 1998.

"A wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ," the convention says in its statement of faith. Baptist Press reported that the 1998 ad was addressed to denomination leaders and said: "You are right because you called wives to graciously submit to their husband's sacrificial leadership."

Huckabee was supported by 17 percent of women in a nationwide AP-Ipsos poll earlier this month, making him roughly even with Rudy Giuliani and John McCain for the lead among female voters among GOP presidential contenders.

Huckabee has faced questions before over his support of the marriage statement, with a rival in his 1998 re-election campaign citing the statement and accusing Huckabee of opposing equal pay for women.

"It's one thing for Mike Huckabee to think a wife should submit graciously to her husband, but it's another to have her work for less than she's worth," Democratic challenger Bill Bristow said in a 1998 ad.

Huckabee's campaign then cried foul and accused Bristow of taking a swipe at Southern Baptists.

In 1992, when Huckabee was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, he said in a 229-question survey submitted by The Associated Press that he opposed placing women in combat roles in the military "because of my strong traditional view that women should be treated with respect and dignity and not subject to the kinds of abuses that could occur in combat."

However, Huckabee's traditional view of women apparently doesn't extend to the political arena.

In the same survey, Huckabee was asked about the number of women serving in the House and Senate. He wrote: "I really cannot say whether or not the presence of so few women has made any difference in Congress, but women are certainly as capable as men of serving in the Senate."

That view also extends to the White House. Huckabee said Thursday in the ABC interview that he fully expects a woman will be elected to lead the country someday — he just hopes it won't be next year since he wants the job.

"Will there be a female president? Of course there will. And should there be? Absolutely," Huckabee said.
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Are some of his best friends women?
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