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Old 12-19-2007, 09:15 PM   #261
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Are you female?
Is murder permissible according to ones' gender?
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I think anitram was questioning the "directly affecting people's lives" portion of your statement.
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I think anitram was questioning the "directly affecting people's lives" portion of your statement.
It'll directly affect mine someday. I would say that spending 18 years worth of time, love, money, and general support on one person would directly influence my existence.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:33 PM   #264
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It'll directly affect mine someday. I would say that spending 18 years worth of time, love, money, and general support on one person would directly influence my existence.
That's parenthood, not abortion.
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That's parenthood, not abortion.
Abortion prevents parenthood. They're definitely linked.
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They're linked, but not in the way that you made in that post. I think anitram's point was that abortion doesn't directly affect your life, since, you know, you won't be having one. Whereas, health care does, because, you know, you have health.
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They're linked, but not in the way that you made in that post. I think anitram's point was that abortion doesn't directly affect your life, since, you know, you won't be having one. Whereas, health care does, because, you know, you have health.
Yeah, I get what she's/you're saying. I just wish she would have told me that straight on instead of attempting to make me look foolish by asking my gender.

Really, cut back on the sarcasm, people. This isn't a pissing match, it's supposed to be a discussion about Mike Huckabee's political positions.
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Old 12-19-2007, 10:42 PM   #268
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Health care is important to me.
And me. That's why I should be able to make my health care decisions without your input. Or any other complete stranger's.
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And Martha, could you please clarify what "more equal" means? I really don't follow you.
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No dear. It's the way people think. Somehow a collection of cells has become more important than a living, breathing woman. That's how they are more equal than me.
Like I said. A collection of cells has more rights than I do, according to you.
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it's supposed to be a discussion about Mike Huckabee's political positions.
It is. One you both share.
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Abortion prevents parenthood. They're definitely linked.
But your health will never be directly affected by the laws you support in this case.
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No. What are you implying?
I wasn't implying anything. I was merely curious, because I tend to find it odd when men put this issue at the top of their issues list.
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Yeah, I get what she's/you're saying. I just wish she would have told me that straight on instead of attempting to make me look foolish by asking my gender.

Really, cut back on the sarcasm, people. This isn't a pissing match, it's supposed to be a discussion about Mike Huckabee's political positions.
Maybe you should cut back on making silly assumptions?
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because I tend to find it odd when men put this issue at the top of their issues list.
So do I, especially young men.

You know, most of the leaders of anti-choice organizations are men. Is it a control thing?
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So do I, especially young men.

You know, most of the leaders of anti-choice organizations are men. Is it a control thing?
Another thing I find interesting is that generally the most outspoken ones are young, white men. Why is that? Proportionally speaking, minority men are not up in arms over this issue in comparable numbers.
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Dayum. A lot of picking apart and twisting words going on here.

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Like I said. A collection of cells has more rights than I do, according to you.
The woman always has top priority. I never said she didn't. Abortion can be a valuable process, which is why I've never said I wanted it outlawed. However, I believe a future child should have a shot at life if their birth is simply an inconvenience. Don't use sarcasm and exaggeration in order to weaken my point.

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It is. One you both share.
I wasn't referring to this conversation in particular. I was talking about many of the other pages.

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But your health will never be directly affected by the laws you support in this case.
Already answered that.

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I wasn't implying anything. I was merely curious, because I tend to find it odd when men put this issue at the top of their issues list.
What do you care if I put it high on my issues list? Hell, many consider it murder. Murder is something many take seriously. You can put 2 and 2 together. It's really quite obvious why so many men care.

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Maybe you should cut back on making silly assumptions?
Assuming that someone who's been on this website for 6 years already knows my gender and is using a rhetorical question is hardly a "silly" assumption.
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:25 PM   #277
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So are women who disagree with you somehow misguided?

Just curious. How do they fit into your world view?

Are women only allowed to voice an honest opinion about this?

Your answer to this question intrigues me. Maybe it will save some poor poster some time by posting.

By the way, if only women get to weigh in on this issue, I think only people who earn over 100, 000 should be allowed to weigh in on taxes. It is only logical.

Only people who serve in the service should be allowed to vote on war.

What exactly are the qualifications for weighing in on this issue?

Clearly the religious are out, because they are biased.

Babies, no, they should be out because they are biased.....

I should stop drinking scotch and posting......

Only Bar owners and Beer distributors should be able to vote on hours of operation

Only smokers should be able to vote on smoking.....


Or how about, people can voice an opinion without having to identify themselves as being gay, straight, religious, conservative, female, male, ect.....and feel like they are welcome in this place.

Free your mind my ass.....That is not what this place is about.
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Assuming that someone who's been on this website for 6 years already knows my gender and is using a rhetorical question is hardly a "silly" assumption.
Honestly, I haven't really noticed you at all on this site and I hardly venture off a couple of boards. I had no idea what gender you are, I have no idea where you live, how old you are, or anything. I've never had any kind of conversation with you, PM or anything else personal I can recall. Believe it or not, I have a busy life and don't make it a habit to make a note of everyone's details around here.
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Honestly, I haven't really noticed you at all on this site and I hardly venture off a couple of boards. I had no idea what gender you are, I have no idea where you live, how old you are, or anything. I've never had any kind of conversation with you, PM or anything else personal I can recall. Believe it or not, I have a busy life and don't make it a habit to make a note of everyone's details around here.
Fair enough. I'm sorry if I offended you in any way.
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So are women who disagree with you somehow misguided?

Just curious. How do they fit into your world view?

Are women only allowed to voice an honest opinion about this?
Who are you talking to?

If it's me, I never insinuated any of the things you are talking about in your circular ways. I really just find it curious when a man makes a priority of this issue - maybe because in my personal life I've never known men who have cared that much about this area. Certainly my brother and father are as pro-choice as can be and I've never dated a man who wasn't very explicitly pro-choice.

If you're talking to martha, then disregard this post.
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