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Old 01-24-2008, 09:35 PM   #21
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So please, list a state or two that Obama takes that Hillary loses? OK?
Was that sentence structure sufficient enough


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many things occur to me

and analyzing the U S electoral process is not that difficult


Paul is not a factor in this election

looked at from the point of view of elections

you are right

looked at from the point of view of hearts and minds

you are wrong

he is getting his ideas in the forefront of people's minds

to me, that means that regardless of his chances of being elected

he is doing the public

a great service
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looked at from the point of view of elections

you are right

looked at from the point of view of hearts and minds

you are wrong

he is getting his ideas in the forefront of people's minds

to me, that means that regardless of his chances of being elected

he is doing the public

a great service

I

hate

you

all.

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what have you (or anyone else) specifically taken issue with that the Clintons have done in this camapign?

Let's make this thread useful and debate these issues point by point.


1. calling Obama "kid"
2. claiming that Obama was injecting "race" into the campaign when it was the Clintons who did first
3. the wild distortion of Obama's comments on Reagan
4. the wild distortion of Obama's non-comments on Clinton
5. the wild distortion of what 100 "present" votes in the IL senate means out of over 4,000 cast
6. the use of a former president as a political hit man and his going far above and beyond the role of a political spouse

do you want more?
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yes

and because I am an old bastard

I can tell you that Goldwater 1964

begat Regan 1980


so will Ron Paul 2008

begat a future leader




btw,
I survived a house fire

and type with one hand
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i find myself disliking Hillary with the intensity and the irrationality of most of those on the right.

Why do you hate successful women?
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Why do you hate successful women?


i don't use the word hate.

i dislike a woman who presents herself as some kind of feminist icon when EVERYTHING she has accomplished is directly due to her husband's power.
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1. calling Obama "kid"
2. claiming that Obama was injecting "race" into the campaign when it was the Clintons who did first
3. the wild distortion of Obama's comments on Reagan
4. the wild distortion of Obama's non-comments on Clinton
5. the wild distortion of what 100 "present" votes in the IL senate means out of over 4,000 cast
6. the use of a former president as a political hit man and his going far above and beyond the role of a political spouse

do you want more?
Why are you against a female president?

Are you a misogynist?
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Why are you against a female president?

Are you a misogynist?


no.

i just hate white people.
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i dislike a woman who presents herself as some kind of feminist icon when EVERYTHING she has accomplished is directly due to her husband's power.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Not saying you are wrong. But I'm not entirely sure who the brains of the operation here was all along either.
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i don't use the word hate.
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i just hate white people.


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btw,
I survived a house fire

and type with one hand
No shit?

I apologize. I was raised by wolves which made me an asshole.
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i just hate white people.

Who the hell don't.
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i don't use the word hate.

i dislike a woman who presents herself as some kind of feminist icon when EVERYTHING she has accomplished is directly due to her husband's power.

I think you're forgetting something.

Hillary and Bills were up at the barricades defending civil rights back in the 1960's, when people like Barack were off doing whatever it is that, y'know, people like Barack do.

People like Obama should be grateful, damnit.
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I think a more fair comparison would be when Barack was the age that Hillary and Bill were in the 1960s.
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no.

i just hate white people.
Typically ungrateful. Why can't you accept that it's some people's right to govern?
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What came first, the chicken or the egg?

Not saying you are wrong. But I'm not entirely sure who the brains of the operation here was all along either.


it is a partnership. i do agree.

i still think he's the brains. she'd be almost over and done with had she not, 1) cried, and 2) unleashed Bill and his rock star power to unload in a petty and nasty way on Obama.

without him, she's nothing.

i think she would be a fine president, yet she could not ever be a fine president. these past few weeks have revealed to me a viciousness in the two of them that i hadn't seen before, and people are just waiting, rubbing their hands, willing to dig in their heels and kick and scream like a 15 year old who wants to piss of his overprotective mother.

and if you think that Bush is someone who cannot admit he's ever made a mistake, wait till we have the Clintons back in the white house.
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Hillary and Bills were up at the barricades defending civil rights back in the 1960's, when people like Barack were off doing whatever it is that, y'know, people like Barack do.

being in elementary school?
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without him, she's nothing.

What would he have been

without her?
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Typically ungrateful. Why can't you accept that it's some people's right to govern?


surname Bush or Clinton.

it works in Argentina, no?
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