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Old 08-10-2007, 08:57 AM   #21
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Killing monkeys to save humans is a worthwhile excercise, how much has that sacrifice done for the cause of medical science - although killing a Gorilla for food, meh, too gamey.
This is what I love about human beings... What makes you believe that you have anymore of a right to exist and live your life than any other creature on this planet?
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This is what I love about human beings... What makes you believe that you have anymore of a right to exist and live your life than any other creature on this planet?
It's called nature's law.

Apply to every creature on this planet, not only human.

My grandmother once told me that when she was little, her best friend was attacked by a wolf and found 3 days after in the wild field, no belly, but only a body-shell left. That's a main reason she doens't like dogs.

I think you should tell the parents not to ask the men in the whole village gathered to kill the wolf. And other kids' parents should not join because they worried their own kids' safety, once the wolf attacked a human, for some reason it would remeber the taste and do it over and over again.

Try to tell them your theory.
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It's called nature's law.

Apply to every creature on this planet, not only human.

My grandmother once told me that when she was little, her best friend was attacked by a wolf and found 3 days after in the wild field, no belly, but only a body-shell left. That's a main reason she doens't like dogs.

I think you should tell the parents not to ask the men in the whole village gathered to kill the wolf. And other kids' parents should not join because they worried their own kids' safety, once the wolf attacked a human, for some reason it would remeber the taste and do it over and over again.

Try to tell them your theory.
Humans should not go out of there way to kill animals. If an animal attacks, of course humans can defend themselves, thats not the question.
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OMG! lets go completely off the subject about defenceless animals being killed for NOTHING and the fact that someone you know knew someone who was killed by a WILD ANIMAL. Where were her parent sprotecting her from this wolf? Are we supposed to now only have animals either domesticated or locked up in zoos?

It totally annoys me that people trot out these FEW AND FAR BETWEEN stories to prove a freaking point.
Fact: We're animals just like all of them. Secondly even though we have a brain, we're more stupid then they are.
Thirdly, no one is saying that an animal is better then a human, but if you don't actually feel any emotion when you hear of the sensless killing of animals then... something is wrong with you seriously.

Also in the case of these gorrillas, they are endangered. We've fucked up their habitat, their food, their millions of square metres of forest for our own selfish needs, and then we have people going and starting to kill the remaining ones. I mean what is wrong with people?!
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but if you don't actually feel any emotion when you hear of the sensless killing of animals then... something is wrong with you seriously.


Very seriously wrong.

It is totally beyond my adult comprehension that when you look at that majestic beautiful beast you can't help but feel sorry for him and his family.

He and they were where they were supposed to be. They didn't invite people in to kill them for no reason. They did not attack anyone.

You can help but feel for these poor gorillas, who are intelligent, and so very close to us that its amazing.

These are some pictures that I took at the Bronx Zoo.
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gorgeous pictures JC!
Such wonderful creatures
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OMG! lets go completely off the subject about defenceless animals being killed for NOTHING and the fact that someone you know knew someone who was killed by a WILD ANIMAL. Where were her parent sprotecting her from this wolf? Are we supposed to now only have animals either domesticated or locked up in zoos?

It totally annoys me that people trot out these FEW AND FAR BETWEEN stories to prove a freaking point.
Fact: We're animals just like all of them. Secondly even though we have a brain, we're more stupid then they are.
Thirdly, no one is saying that an animal is better then a human, but if you don't actually feel any emotion when you hear of the sensless killing of animals then... something is wrong with you seriously.

Also in the case of these gorrillas, they are endangered. We've fucked up their habitat, their food, their millions of square metres of forest for our own selfish needs, and then we have people going and starting to kill the remaining ones. I mean what is wrong with people?!
Absolutely!

JCoster, I'm sorry....I can't even bring the emotional strength to open that link up....to me it's like seeing the news....it's bad enough already watching suffering everyday, I just can't do it.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JCOSTER
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You can help but feel for these poor gorillas, who are intelligent, and so very close to us that its amazing.

These are some pictures that I took at the Bronx Zoo.
How can you not love them?[B]




They even feed their young better than us.
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Stupid humans will only stop when the world has been cleared of any natural bush and wild animals. I can't believe people still buy ivory or eat bushmeat.
I'm not saying I'm a saint but people need to be educated. Hunting is only one way the animals are being killed, what about all the forests being logged. Being chased from your home and slowly starved isn't any better than being shot.
Humans and animals are equals but only humans have the power to change things
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It's called nature's law.

Apply to every creature on this planet, not only human.

My grandmother once told me that when she was little, her best friend was attacked by a wolf and found 3 days after in the wild field, no belly, but only a body-shell left. That's a main reason she doens't like dogs.

I think you should tell the parents not to ask the men in the whole village gathered to kill the wolf. And other kids' parents should not join because they worried their own kids' safety, once the wolf attacked a human, for some reason it would remeber the taste and do it over and over again.

Try to tell them your theory.
I understand what you are saying here but I think you misunderstood me:

If I am attacked by an animal I will defend myself of course but I am not going to go out of my way to hunt and kill something simply because I can or it pleases me.

Humans seem to be the only species capable of this, all other creatures only kill if they are threatened or are in need of food, I find this very telling about our species...
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