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Soldiers should not act like politicians. If you get paid to do a job you do it, you dont hand pick the tasks you have been given.
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Originally posted by vaz02
Soldiers should not act like politicians. If you get paid to do a job you do it, you dont hand pick the tasks you have been given. How come you aren't in Iraq? |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ehren_Watada
Ehren Watada, a Lieutenant from Ft. Lewis in Washington State, did the same thing. (please excuse the Wikipedia link - it seemed to be the first link I saw that was the most thorough. Nitpick about details all you want, but the gist is the same as the guy in the original article.) |
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I'm sorry but I might be biased by history.
As others pointed out, a soldier should always be aware if the orders he receives are legal and in line with the constitution, and today with the UN charta as well. If he deems a task or a whole war not legal he should be a thinking person in the first place and speak his mind. He didn't refuse to serve his country in general, but in the case of the Iraq war. I think it's inevitable for an Army to have soldiers that can think themselves and put morale before performance of duty. |
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Right, and his orders are legal orders, period.
If they are legal orders, you do your duty. You might not agree with everything, and that goes from a particular mission, to the entire war, but you still do what you are commanded to do. I'm going to Iraq this fall, as part of my job. I don't have an explicit opinion on the reasons why we started in Iraq. I do know, however, that it is the right thing now, to support the Iraqi government, so they can setup a stable society as soon as possible. So we can be on our way. |
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Governments need people to question what they don't believe is true / right / ethical - its the only way society can continue to grow -its pretty evident that human beings are not so good at keeping their heads on straight when power is bestowed upon them
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there must be something in between "Befehl ist Befehl" (for lack of a better, succinct description) and "hippies smoking pot"
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