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Old 08-13-2007, 10:17 AM   #81
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omg what bible are you reading?
Alright then, care to elaborate? Show me some Bible verses that say that having money is a sin.
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2861U2 - i'm curious, which of the democratic candidates do you consider to be moderate if you say clinton is left?
The only one I'm halfway fond of is Senator Biden. He seems to be the only one who doesnt think we should pull our troops out immediately, plus he's the only one who didnt attend the YearlyKos hatefest. I dont see how any of the other 7 can expect to be called a moderate if they associate themselves with such a hateful place. They all, especially Edwards, pander to the far-left, because the far-left will choose the candidate. They, and places like MoveOn, instruct the candidates what to do, and if they dont do it, they will attack them on the internet. Most of the Democratic candidates are scared of the far-left, so they pander to them so as not to get hurt.

So to answer your question- anyone who doesnt associate themselves with the Kos.
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The only one I'm halfway fond of is Senator Biden. He seems to be the only one who doesnt think we should pull our troops out immediately, plus he's the only one who didnt attend the YearlyKos hatefest. I dont see how any of the other 7 can expect to be called a moderate if they associate themselves with such a hateful place. They all, especially Edwards, pander to the far-left, because the far-left will choose the candidate. They, and places like MoveOn, instruct the candidates what to do, and if they dont do it, they will attack them on the internet. Most of the Democratic candidates are scared of the far-left, so they pander to them so as not to get hurt.

So to answer your question- anyone who doesnt associate themselves with the Kos.
What world do you live in? This post is not only incorrect but just downright laughable.
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So to answer your question- anyone who doesnt associate themselves with the Kos.

YearlyKos is sponsored by the ONE campaign which is co-founded by Bono. Yeah...REAL hateful place there. Keyword: non-partisan. I don't know how you equate that with far-left.
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YearlyKos is sponsored by the ONE campaign which is co-founded by Bono. Yeah...REAL hateful place there. Keyword: non-partisan. I don't know how you equate that with far-left.
Changing the status quo and taking the power away from white conservative males is a hateful value, didn't you know?
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The DailyKos is a hateful website that not only personally attacks but humiliates anyone who disagrees with them. Have you seen the stuff on there? The Democratic candidates supporting it and legitimizing it by appearing at their convention is shameful. Just because they are associated with the ONE Campaign doesnt make it ok.

It is obvious that the candidates are intimidated by the left-wing blogosphere. They are more and more rejecting the moderate wing and embracing the far-left. You wont see them attempting to be moderate until the general campaign. Right now it's all about getting the far-left support.

Why would they go to Kos and not to Fox News?
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2861, I challenge you to back this up.

First give one example of how YearlyKos is hateful.

Second, define the "far-left" and give one example of how these canidates are pandering to them. Just one, hell I'll give you all day to come up with something too. For you'll need it.
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Second, define the "far-left" and give one example of how these canidates are pandering to them.
I was wondering this too. Where is he getting this "far-left" beeswax?
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Just because they are associated with the ONE Campaign doesnt make it ok.
I pointed out the ONE campaign because like Kos, ONE is non-partisan. ONE doesn't endorse any candidate, nor do they contribute to any party. They are specifically issue oriented, so are many of the other sponsors. Because ONE sponsors them, that clearly means they are giving them money because they support this non-partisan group.

It just so happens that there are people who are democrats who support the issues Kos. This by no means makes it far-left. I'm sure there are other progressive issues in which people who support Kos do not support.

It is a political spectrum. I feel like you see your conservative right side, and the "diversity" in opinion there, but I'm getting the feeling you might be seeing the other side as all one point of view, simply by narrowing your perspective to this issue. It is a spectrum, and there are various degrees on both sides.
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I have never heard of Yearly Kos but if Bill O'Reilly is condemning it, it must be awesome!!!!!!!
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I feel like you see your conservative right side, and the "diversity" in opinion there,
I think you give him too much credit, I don't think he even recognizes this.
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I have never heard of Yearly Kos but if Bill O'Reilly is condemning it, it must be awesome!!!!!!!
that's why i'm surprised too! i've never heard of it either, and i tend to have some very progressive views.
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Changing the status quo and taking the power away from white conservative males is a hateful value, didn't you know?

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I have never heard of Yearly Kos but if Bill O'Reilly is condemning it, it must be awesome!!!!!!!
I'm sure this is why he is making it an issue, because he was told that it is evil.
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2861, I challenge you to back this up.

First give one example of how YearlyKos is hateful.

Second, define the "far-left" and give one example of how these canidates are pandering to them. Just one, hell I'll give you all day to come up with something too. For you'll need it.
Gladly.

1) I found this poll on one of their pages:

DO YOU CARE THAT TONY SNOW HAS CANCER?

a) Yes. I unconditionally feel sympathy for anyone who is suffering.
b) Yes, but it is harder to feel sympathy for a man who has so much damage to our nation.
c) No, but I don't want to see his family suffer.
d) No. He's the public face of a thieving, murdering government. He deserves no mercy.
e) Can't decide either way: ambivalent.
f) Don't care at all.

Option "a" was winning- by one vote. Truly, truly disrespectful. If that isnt a demonstration of passionate hate towards someone, I really dont know what is. It is inexcusable, yet I know you or someone else here will defend the poll.

Then, of course, there are pictures like this:



I could find more examples I'm sure, but I really dont like being on that site.

2) Nice try. In terms of world politics, far-left implies communism, anarchy, things like that which arent much found in the US. But I'm talking about the American political spectrum. These people are the extreme left wing- the left of the left. The Democratic candidates are pandering to them because if they dont, they will become Joe Lieberman (who is a moderate) in the above picture.

Pander: to appeal to, so as to achieve one's purpose.

The candidates attending YearlyKos shows that they endorse the hate so easily found on the site. Each one of them owes Mr. Snow and Senator Lieberman an apology for supporting the extremely rude postings that the Kos traffics in.
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Second, define the "far-left" and give one example of how these canidates are pandering to them. Just one, hell I'll give you all day to come up with something too. For you'll need it.
It must be radically different from what we understand as far-left in Germany.
But since Hillary is left, far-left probably is what we would refer to as center-left to left.

And I'm still curious about the tax thing. Or deficit spending, a great example for the private economy as you can see with the mortgage sector.
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Gladly.

1) I found this poll on one of their pages:

DO YOU CARE THAT TONY SNOW HAS CANCER?

a) Yes. I unconditionally feel sympathy for anyone who is suffering.
b) Yes, but it is harder to feel sympathy for a man who has so much damage to our nation.
c) No, but I don't want to see his family suffer.
d) No. He's the public face of a thieving, murdering government. He deserves no mercy.
e) Can't decide either way: ambivalent.
f) Don't care at all.

Option "a" was winning- by one vote. Truly, truly disrespectful. If that isnt a demonstration of passionate hate towards someone, I really dont know what is. It is inexcusable, yet I know you or someone else here will defend the poll.

Then, of course, there are pictures like this:



I could find more examples I'm sure, but I really dont like being on that site.
First of all links are a great way to site your sources. Secondly, the website is open, have you seen images and opinions on here that you don't agree with? Does that make this site hateful?

Watch what you are condeming.

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2) Nice try. In terms of world politics, far-left implies communism, anarchy, things like that which arent much found in the US. But I'm talking about the American political spectrum. These people are the extreme left wing- the left of the left. The Democratic candidates are pandering to them because if they dont, they will become Joe Lieberman (who is a moderate) in the above picture.

Pander: to appeal to, so as to achieve one's purpose.

The candidates attending YearlyKos shows that they endorse the hate so easily found on the site. Each one of them owes Mr. Snow and Senator Lieberman an apology for supporting the extremely rude postings that the Kos traffics in.
Wow, you didn't define a thing or give one example of how they are pandering. Am I suprised? No.
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have you seen images and opinions on here that you don't agree with? Does that make this site hateful?
Interference is different. DailyKos is a political blog publishing news with a liberal viewpoint. Interference is a forum with no specific purpose. In other words, there are sub-forums on here to talk about whatever you want to talk about. If someone in here printed the Tony Snow poll above, and a presidential candidate came to a Free Your Mind convention, I would have a problem with that unless that candidate condemned the poll and any other hateful material. Zero of the candidates acknowledged that there are some pretty bad things on the Kos. No mention. BVS- wasnt that a bad move? What do you think of the Tony Snow poll?



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Wow, you didn't define a thing or give one example of how they are pandering. Am I suprised? No.
Incorrect. I condemned each candidate for going to the convention and endorsing the site which thrives in hateful material. That's how they are pandering- by working to get the support of people who publish the Tony Snow poll. The people who constructed that poll (as well as everyone who voted for options "b" through "f") are not fair, moderate, everyday Americans. They are the extreme wing of the Democratic Party.
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The person who constructed that poll ... are not fair, moderate, everyday Americans. They are the extreme wing of the Democratic Party.
I don't care about the poll or the website, but I'd like you to prove this statement please.
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I still want to know what "far left" is...
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