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Old 05-27-2008, 08:52 PM   #21
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Keep telling yourself that. All electoral college projections I've seen so far give McCain the victory.


it's June. Ross Perot would have been president in 1992.

and if all you can come up with is a few factual errors based on stories an uncle told him, it will be a tsunami.

at least the GOP nominated the only electable Republican. and, so far, i have been impressed by McCain's campaign insofar as he's denounced Bush and won't use Rovian tactics (thus far).
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let's hear it for the "typical white person" side of the family
i can't hear you over the damn beeping of the bus going in reverse.
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That is the story of the day, an old person moment for Obama.
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It is "small potatoes"
that he mixed up the death camps.


But. I will be watching "Keith' tonight
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It is "small potatoes"
that he mixed up the death camps.


i've been to Auschwitz.

i felt no need to see Dacahu, or Buchenwald. it's not so much that you've seen one, you've seen them all, but more that if you've seen one, there's no need to see another.

i still have nightmares.
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Which conservative blogs?
Here's one

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Obama beat the Clintons like a drum tonight. And then he beat their sorry [deleted] again in this magnificent victory speech. Watch the speech. Really, watch: if this man gets his party's nomination, he's going to be the next president. By a landslide
Crunchy Con - Rod Dreher, Conservative blog, Beliefnet conservative politics and religion blog

From what I've heard, even Pat Buchanan is saying Obama is it.
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Keep telling yourself that. All electoral college projections I've seen so far give McCain the victory.
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Since you're such a fan of these.
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it's June. Ross Perot would have been president in 1992.

and if all you can come up with is a few factual errors based on stories an uncle told him, it will be a tsunami.

at least the GOP nominated the only electable Republican. and, so far, i have been impressed by McCain's campaign insofar as he's denounced Bush and won't use Rovian tactics (thus far).
And remember all you Clintonites if it wasn't for Ross Perot there would never have been the "Clinton Years" - he stole most of the 18 - 19 million votes from George H.W. Bush. That's a helluva lot of votes considering how close Bush vs Gore was.
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Since you're such a fan of these.

since you are such a fan of saying Hillary should 'hang it up'.

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And remember all you Clintonites if it wasn't for Ross Perot there would never have been the "Clinton Years" - he stole most of the 18 - 19 million votes from George H.W. Bush. That's a helluva lot of votes considering how close Bush vs Gore was.
that is just a flat out silly claim

jesus, I was there in 92, I was 36

I know who the Perrot supporters were


I don't care what the right-wing AM radio talkers say.
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since you are such a fan of saying Hillary should 'hang it up'.

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She should hang it up because she has LOST according to the RULES which she was aware of PRIOR to the primary and yet she CHOSE to run a shitty, inept, pathetic campaign that DISREGARDED the caucuses and the way that delegates are ALLOCATED.

You can argue that the Democratic primaries are a sham. But Hillary and her people knew the deal beforehand and ran an awful campaign. If we should be rewarding this kind of stupidity and ineptness, then let's also bring Giuliani back.
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And it wouldn't surprise me if he did say that.




That's all a post like this deserves.
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She should hang it up because she has LOST according to the RULES which she was aware of PRIOR to the primary and yet she CHOSE to run a shitty, inept, pathetic campaign that DISREGARDED the caucuses and the way that delegates are ALLOCATED.

You can argue that the Democratic primaries are a sham. But Hillary and her people knew the deal beforehand and ran an awful campaign. If we should be rewarding this kind of stupidity and ineptness, then let's also bring Giuliani back.
She certainly has not lost,

and Obama certainly has not won.


Are you aware that Obama only has 1659 pledged delegates ?

These are delegates that are pledged to vote for him.

No other delegates than said 1659 have any obligation to vote for him.

It will require a minimum of 2025 to perhaps something like over 2200 delegates to get the nomination.
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I didn't think that even pledged delegates had to vote a specific way.

I guess you think it would be a good idea for the superdelegates to go contrary to the majority of the pledged delegates.
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That's all a post like this deserves.
Ok. Great. I wish I knew what that meant...

What? Are you telling me Obama making stupid or false statements or misstatements is a rare occurance? I could compile quite a list.

Yesterday, on Memorial Day, Senator Obama said this: "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes – and I see many of them in the audience here today – our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."



And you guys make fun of Bush for not being a master speaker.
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Could you provide a link to that quote?
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Could you provide a link to that quote?
Can Obama see dead people?
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I didn't think that even pledged delegates had to vote a specific way.
that would be called a "faithless" delegate

and I think that would be a bad idea

the way we elect Presidents,
I think there are something like 540 electors
one elector for each electoral college vote

well, an elector could vote different than the way he or she was selected to by their State, There have been"faithless" electors Faithless elector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
one or two faithless electors could have flipped the 2000 election

I don't like the concept of "faithless" electors or delegates.


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I guess you think it would be a good idea for the superdelegates to go contrary to the majority of the pledged delegates.
We have Statewide primaries here.

Obama won Iowa, South Carolina, Virginia to name a few, I am sure you are aware that he won the most states.

I would expect the superdelrgates from those states to respect the will of their citizens and support Obama the winner of the elections in their States.


I also would expect the superdelegates from New York, Massachusetts, California, West Virgina to respect the will of their citizens and support Hillary the winner of the elections in their States.


Come November the "electors" will respect the will of the voters in their states and vote the same way their Statewide elections turnout.

So choosing a candidate by superdelegates voting for the loser is odd.

This will be the first time that has happened, the loser gets the nomination.
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Ok. Great. I wish I knew what that meant...

What? Are you telling me Obama making stupid or false statements or misstatements is a rare occurance? I could compile quite a list.
A misspeak and a flat out lie are two completely different things. Obama has never been in a situation where he was even close to sniper fire, so everyone knows that would have been a flat out lie.

You try too hard, that's why that post deserved a roll of the eyes.

Honestly to pick on that paticular Memorial Day quote is just weak. Yes, technically it's wrong, but anyone with a sense of logic can see where he was actually going with that...

When Obama starts making up words and misspeaking in over 50% of his speeches then you can start comparing him to Bush.
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Ok. Great. I wish I knew what that meant...

What? Are you telling me Obama making stupid or false statements or misstatements is a rare occurance? I could compile quite a list.

Yesterday, on Memorial Day, Senator Obama said this: "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes – and I see many of them in the audience here today – our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."



And you guys make fun of Bush for not being a master speaker.


do you have anything of substance to offer?

seriously. are gaffes all you have?

you sound like Michelle Malkin.
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