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Old 02-08-2006, 12:20 PM   #41
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Hate has an object. One gets angry about what is said, done, suggested, etc. One hates the person who does it.


yes, but i don't hate O'Reilly. i hate -- and that's still a strong word, "despair at" is probably better -- how he sells anger and hate with self-righteousness, the "avenging angel of the working class" schtick he's well perfected. he's a cunning debater, and certainly deserves his success as his show is expertly produced; what i despair at is the market for such things.

i don't see any objects, in this situation, as worthy of much emotion, especially as one akin to hate. the situation, as told by O'Reilly's enormous ratings and merchandising success, makes me despair.

i also think hate is one of the more overused words out there.
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Funny how we get angry about Bill O'Reilly getting other people angry. Isn't this just another form of hate?
For some I would say that's true. And if you're saying negativity begets negativity, then that's also true.

But generally speaking, saying anger is hate is a bit like saying irritation is rage.
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I'm not mixing the two concepts. Just pointing out how we can move down the continuum from anger over and issue, to hate directed towards a person.
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Just pointing out how we can move down the continuum from anger over and issue, to hate directed towards a person.
You bet...that happens all too often. Although I haven't seen it happen in this thread.
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Old 02-08-2006, 02:00 PM   #45
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Bill O'Reilly only cares about making working class white people angry.
Irvine, you nailed it. This is exactly the M.O. at Fox News. O'Reilly is just better at it than anyone else there. Although I'd lose the "white" distinction. It's more older people than anything else: good, simple, red-state people who proved themselves easy victims during the era of communism. Liberalism and secularism are just the latest boogeyman. Nothing sells like anger and fear and there's a lot of good folks out there who don't even know they're being manipulated.
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I prefer The Colbert Report.
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