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is this a typo?
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oh, didn't you know? frederick muhlenberg was the deciding vote to make our official language english, despite the united states not even having an official language.
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I'm sorry but "Alinsky" type answers do not fall into the realm of logical answers. I find them lazy and naive. It just shows me exactly where you get your info and that you don't quite question the info you are spoon fed. I think that anyone that reads the 'Rules for Radicals' and doesn't understand that these are basic tactics used in politics by all sides is naive.
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Sen. John McCain said he was surprised but not "shocked" by the resignation of his former running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. On NBC's Meet the Press, the Arizona Republican said Palin's decision was consistent with his definition of leadership to resign from office mid-term. NBC's David Gregory seemed incredulous that McCain thought Palin's resignation spoke well of her leadership capabilities. "You have sustained personal torture, personal attack, political attack, investigation," Gregory said. "You have never resigned from anything. Is it consistent with your qualities of leadership to resign an elected post like this?" "Sure," the senator said. "It is?" McCain said it was a question of how Palin could serve most effectively, and that she had decided she would be most effective if she stepped down. "I respect that position and that decision," he said, "and I cannot tell you the appreciation I have for her." McCain insisted that Palin is qualified for the highest office in the land. But he declined to endorse Palin for a potential 2012 presidential run, which also surprised the NBC host. "Can you understand how people would think it's strange?" Gregory said. "You vouched for her in front of the country, that she was qualified for the highest position in the land. Yet, you're not prepared to endorse her now?" "Ronald Reagan didn't endorse George Herbert Walker Bush until the year of the election," McCain said. "I mean, it's just way too early. I'm confident she would make a fine president. The question is what's the whole political scenario?" "Do you think she'll run?" "I don't know. I know she will play a major role." |
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In any case, the debate over the justification of those bombings was at the time, and remains today, essentially a debate about the additional cost in time and lives needed to defeat Japan conventionally, not whether defeating them was possible. Gen. Eisenhower, Gen. MacArthur and Admiral Nimitz all opposed it; Truman himself framed his decision in terms of reducing the cost in American lives, not in terms of what was necessary to avoid 'all of us speaking Japanese.' |
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So, Pat Buchanan recommended on MSNBC this morning that Todd Palin "ought to take Levi down to the creek and hold his head underwater until the thrashing stops."
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I don't think the US would be speaking German. There would be holocaust museums in Dresden and Hiroshima documenting the massacres committed by Britain and the US. Not saying that would be right, but it is the victors that write the history. The Bush family would probably have been as successful in this alternate reality as they were in our universe, given their well documented Nazi connections.
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Hot fuckin' redneck teenage boys who dig hockey, snowboarding, dirt bikes and hangin' with the boys, yafuckwithmeillkickyourass. And cappucino-swilling, Dijon-dipping media elites like Pat just hate that. He's not their kind of working-class white guy.
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Or maybe the kid's just a punk.
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Doesn't matter, he's still a direct counterpoint to the conservative populist agenda for America. As a cold political calculation, I could not be more pleased.
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I've done my homework. I'll waste my time again... ![]() Obama acknowledged his association with Frank Marshall Davis. He was only identified as "Frank" throughout Dreams From My Father. Quote:
For you to distance yourself with Rev. Wright and yet calling him not so extreme is a curious point. You can't have it both ways. Next point. The Gamaliel Foundation claims to represent a million people all over the world. According to Saul Alinsky, Gamaliel was the first great congregational community organizer - from the Book of Acts. Straight out of Chapter Two of Rules For Radicals, the plank is "the world as it is" versus "the world as it should be," which The Gamaliel Foundation emphasized as a primary talking point. Obama worked for the Gamaliel Foundation. This is what Michelle Obama said during the campaign: "Barack stood up that day and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about 'The world as it is' and 'The world as it should be...All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won't do -- that we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be." And from Rules For Radicals: "The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive -- but real -- allies of the Haves... The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be." I understand the subject at length is too esoteric for ignorant people. And what about you? I still haven't seen an example of how Rush is "extreme." |
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When I say he's not that extreme, I really mean that his feelings are held by a lot more people than you think. I think the reason Wright is such an issue is that the Rush type conservatives "indoctrinate"(to use your word) themselves with this American Exceptionalism belief and that any questioning or criticism of our past is wrong. I think it's an unproductive way to divide us. It's a political tool, a "Rule for Rushies" if you will... ![]() Quote:
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But, "US of KKK A", and "Not God bless America, God Damn America!!!" is extreme in the sense that it is over the top. Quote:
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I really think Rush is talking about people like John McCain, who pride themselves on "reaching across the aisle," when they become the aisle. I've already gave you the example of Fred Thompson, who has reached across the aisle without becoming the aisle. That's why Rush has no gripes with FDT. |
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