Same Sex Marriage Thread - Part III

[BVS]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Why only two? Seems irrational and arbitrary if not bigoted. Marriage equality for ALL.

So you haven't learned one thing in the last 8 years?

[BEAL]

We've gone over this so many times.

You are not born a polygamist, you choose to marry multiple people, thus it's not a right. Of course SSM critics argue homosexuality is a choice. For those that think it is, I'd like to hear when you choose to be straight or gay (partaking in both and continuing to do so would make you bisexual, which if sexuality is a choice, we are basically bi)

There's the human rights issue of women being forced into marriage, usually at a young age. Then throw in the effect on other relationships. If a man has four wives, that's less women for other single men to try and find. It creates an skew towards more men in that society. Gay marriage doesn't have that effect.

Then there's the legal reasons. Since marriage is a contract between two people, adding more people makes it more complex. How do you deal with next of kin or divorce? Splitting assets? Child support?

While on a high level perspective, I don't really have a problem with polygamy. Seems a bit much, but if all parties are adults and consent...sure. But then you get into legal issues and it falls apart.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Why only two? Seems irrational and arbitrary if not bigoted. Marriage equality for ALL.

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l'M THINKING THAT IT MUST BE LOVE
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THE EUROPEAN CANNON IS HERE

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[cobl04]

All I could see in the preview was "ITS NOT THE SIDE EFFECTS" and I knew exactly what that post would be.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Why only two? Seems irrational and arbitrary if not bigoted. Marriage equality for ALL.

Go ahead and make that argument.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

IT'S NOT THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THE COCAINE
l'M THINKING THAT IT MUST BE LOVE
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE GRATEFUL
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE LATE AGAIN
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE HATEFUL
THE EUROPEAN CANNON IS HERE

IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE

Tell me I person arguing for same-sex marriage in 1976.

[digitize]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

IT'S NOT THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THE COCAINE
l'M THINKING THAT IT MUST BE LOVE
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE GRATEFUL
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE LATE AGAIN
IT'S TOO LATE
TO BE HATEFUL
THE EUROPEAN CANNON IS HERE

IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE
IT'S TOO LATE

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Tell me I person arguing for same-sex marriage in 1976.

I can get you 1972.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_v._Nelson

[Galeongirl]

Originally Posted by BEAL

We've gone over this so many times.

You are not born a polygamist, you choose to marry multiple people, thus it's not a right. Of course SSM critics argue homosexuality is a choice. For those that think it is, I'd like to hear when you choose to be straight or gay (partaking in both and continuing to do so would make you bisexual, which if sexuality is a choice, we are basically bi)

There's the human rights issue of women being forced into marriage, usually at a young age. Then throw in the effect on other relationships. If a man has four wives, that's less women for other single men to try and find. It creates an skew towards more men in that society. Gay marriage doesn't have that effect.

Then there's the legal reasons. Since marriage is a contract between two people, adding more people makes it more complex. How do you deal with next of kin or divorce? Splitting assets? Child support?

While on a high level perspective, I don't really have a problem with polygamy. Seems a bit much, but if all parties are adults and consent...sure. But then you get into legal issues and it falls apart.

Great post.

It still disturbs me that polygamy is often mentioned when discussing same sex marriage, when the two have absolutely NOTHING in common.




INDY, do you honestly believe homosexuality is a choice? If so, can you please elaborate why you believe that?

[Dalton]

Have you guys gotten to the bottom of this issue yet?

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Have you guys gotten to the bottom of this issue yet?

LOL! My conclusion is that some don't want to accept that times are a changin' and they'll go to great lengths to refuse it. That's all.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Have you guys gotten to the bottom of this issue yet?

not quite -- i'll let you know when i find him.

[Galeongirl]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Have you guys gotten to the bottom of this issue yet?

*snerk*

[Irvine511]

i'm right on top of that, Rose!

[trojanchick99]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

i'm right on top of that, Rose!

I need the QED report ASAP!

[AEON]

Originally Posted by Galeongirl

Great post.

It still disturbs me that polygamy is often mentioned when discussing same sex marriage, when the two have absolutely NOTHING in common.

Well, I would suppose that some people think it their right to marry as many as women as will say "yes".

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by AEON

Well, I would suppose that some people think it their right to marry as many as women as will say "yes".

No matter what, so long as it's an opposite sexed partner, they can still get married. They have access to that institution even if it's limited to one person.

Gay people do not have that right in 33 states. They can't get authentically married to anyone. A straight person -- convicted felon or octogenarian -- can always marry someone.

[martha]

I was thinking about this whole "gay marriage/polygamy" bullshit the other morning.

Have any of the countries or states that have legalized SSM (I really hate that acronym) gone on to legalize polygamy?

Is this a real and credible threat?

Or is it just bullshit?

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by martha

I was thinking about this whole "gay marriage/polygamy" bullshit the other morning.

Have any of the countries or states that have legalized SSM (I really hate that acronym) gone on to legalize polygamy?

Is this a real and credible threat?

Or is it just bullshit?

[Galeongirl]

Originally Posted by AEON

Well, I would suppose that some people think it their right to marry as many as women as will say "yes".

Some people think it is their right to stone a woman for looking at a man, or driving a car... your point is?

Originally Posted by martha

I was thinking about this whole "gay marriage/polygamy" bullshit the other morning.

Have any of the countries or states that have legalized SSM (I really hate that acronym) gone on to legalize polygamy?

Is this a real and credible threat?

Or is it just bullshit?

No idea, it sure isn't legal here. Not even been discussed. I've never even heard the argument in my country.