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To further prove that the current idea of what marriage is wasn't always the case:
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Big difference. Discrimination based on sexual orientation in hiring or treating (other than blood donation issues) has no place in any hospital or retail business I've worked in the past 15 years. Doesn't mean I'll be attending a SSM though. |
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Can I refuse to bake a cake for a woman who is not a virgin? I won't touch the issue of blood donation, but I'll invite you to my SSM. |
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to me this is like someone refusing to rent someone (even just one singular person) a hotel room because they don't like the colour of their skin or something. the room won't be unusable afterwards because someone from this race or that race slept in the bed or used the toilet, and it makes no difference to the owner of the hotel. or making it about gender. basically, the first thing you're saying is completely at odds with the second thing. you think it's okay for them not to accept gay clients, but you realise it's discrimination? i'm just trying to understand your position on this.
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Huffington Post / Gay Voices Jack Phillips, Colorado Baker, Appeals Order To Serve Gays Via Conservative Christian Organization |
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Yeah, that's exactly what Jesus would do
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Regarding your request, I fail to see the point in it since same sex marriage is in no way analogous to affirmative action. And w/r/t the 14th amendment, I'm sure the core issue you're arguing is this: Quote:
And if you think homosexuality is a choice, well... |
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some key excerpts from the above article, WRT the 14th amendment: Quote:
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what's interesting, to me, is that one's religion is surely freely chosen. we can believe anything we want about anything we want, and we cannot be discriminated against for it, so long as our behavior falls within the bounds of the law. even if homosexuality were a choice, why does it matter, when religion, protected by law, is 100% a choice? |
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Personally I'm leaning towards the softer argument, and letting time and progress do it's thing - the anti-SSM crowd has already lost the battle. |
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I'm all for the softer argument, and I know over the course of time that eventually the hardcore religious haters die out and will be replaced with new, more tolerant generations. But I'd still love to understand where people's arguments are coming from. Yet what I've gotten here sofar is when I'm asking any of the protesters why they think I cannot get married, why they think I am unnatural, I get no response.
Is it because on this forum I'm actually a human, just like them? That you can't actually discern who is straight or gay or bisexual on an internet forum, because they're just like everyone else? I just don't get it, and it's honestly confusing me. Why can they talk about me, but not to me? |
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Probably a combination of being taught to hate something that's different, a sense of something that's "gross" is wrong, and some deep emotional issues that stem from the above two issues. |
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