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Old 08-03-2012, 09:51 AM   #1
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Same Sex Marriage Thread-Part 2

I shop at that mall, I think I might have to stop at Chick Fil A and give them some business. And maybe tell them why.

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7/31/2012 Nashua, NH – Anthony Picolia, manager of the only Chick-Fil-A in New Hampshire, is excited to be a sponsor of the New Hampshire Pride Fest, a celebration of gay rights. In the midst of a controversy over remarks by Chick-Fil-A’s President regarding marriage equality, Picolia decided to take a “Live Free or Die” attitude towards the festival. “In both my personal and professional life, I have had and continue to have positive relationships with family, friends, customers and employees in the LGBT community.” Picolia said. “It would make me sad if someone felt that they were not openly welcomed into my life or restaurant based on their belief, race, creed, sexual orientation or gender.

Chick-fil-A at Pheasant Lane Mall has gay employees and serves gay customers with honor, dignity and respect. We also don’t discriminate in giving back to the Nashua community, donating to a wide variety of causes. I would challenge people to come have a conversation with me before they make assumptions or boycott my restaurant. Come to my restaurant and see for yourself that my team and I only have one mission: To serve exceptional experiences to all.”

Tara Powell, one of the festival’s organizers, is looking forward to working with Mr. Picolia in planning the festival. “This sponsorship is just another example of how great New Hampshire is to the LGBT community. We are looking forward to having a great Pride Fest, and are very excited to have Chick-Fil-A involved.”
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This article is sad to read:

Chick-fil-A Anti-Gay Controversy: Gay Employees Speak Out

Yesterday, I was on Facebook and came across a former co-worker's status where he boasted about supporting Chick-Fil-A. He was always on the cocky side, but that status really turned me off. I unfriended him right away. Not that I'll get any repercussions since its been a long time since I spoke to him, so no worries there.
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Even in my liberal college town the "haters" were deployed in full force and our wait was 50 minutes.

True grassroots activism, community organizing and the use of social media isn't supposed to happen from the Right is it? Oh, oh, might spell trouble come this November.
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Even in my liberal college town the "haters" were deployed in full force and our wait was 50 minutes.

True grassroots activism, community organizing and the use of social media isn't supposed to happen from the Right is it? Oh, oh, might spell trouble come this November.
It's too bad these "christians" don't create lines around the building when it's a food bank handing out food to the poor and homeless, for this is ACTUALLY something Jesus spoke about. No, these hypocrites would rather focus on the distorted sins that don't effect them rather than the ones that actually define them.

This is not about freedom of speech.
This is not about protecting anything.
You are not about true freedom or liberty.

This is about hatred, there is NO way around that.
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The Chief Financial Officer of a Tucson-based "catheter tipping equipment leader" was forced to step down after uploading a YouTube video of himself chastising an employee of Chick-fil-A for working for "a hateful corporation."

Vante CEO Roger Vogel called now-former CFO Adam Smith's rant "disturbing" and "inappropriate."

In the video, Smith can be seeing pulling up to the drive-thru window of a Tucson Chick-fil-A to receive a cup of "free water." He then proceeds to excoriate the employee, telling her "I don't know how you live with yourself and work here."

Before driving away, Smith makes sure to inform the employee that he is a "nice guy" and "totally heterosexual."

After the video went viral yesterday, Vante released a statement saying Smith was "no longer an employee of our company" and his actions "do not reflect our corporate values in any manner."

Vogel, the CEO, told the Arizona Daily Star his company does not have an official stance on marriage equality, " but has always had a 'good relationship' with Chick-fil-A." He also claimed Smith's departure was "mutual."

Smith himself has yet to issue a response.
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Smith was pretty harsh. People need to work, they need to pay their bills and finding work is not easy. For all he knew, that girl could've been a gay rights supporter or actually a lesbian herself. He should've directed his rage toward the Chick-Fil-A CEO rather than someone in need of a paycheck.
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"The President is in the White House because of the civil rights movement, and I was a leader in that movement, and I didn't march one inch, one foot, one yard for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman."

We are going to take action across this country to change the course that this President has us in."
Not in S.F., Boston or Chicago pastor... you don't share their "values."
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Good luck, Pastor. Increasingly, more Americans are supportive of same sex marriage.

If you're not part of the future, then get out of the way.
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It's interesting to me that THIS is what the Christian Pastor thinks is worth "marching across the country" for. Not alleviating poverty, not providing support to single moms doing their best to raise kids on minimum wage or to pregnant women, not serving the homeless, not fighting for better access to mental health treatment so that we don't have people shooting dozens in rampages, not fighting for people with disabilities, etc.

No wonder that western societies are moving towards secularism when these are the sorts of priorities identified by churches.
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He should've directed his rage toward the Chick-Fil-A CEO the U.S. Constitution that gave all Americans the right to free speech, free exercise of religion and the freedom to associate rather than someone in need of a paycheck.
What do you value more? Equality or liberty?
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You know, reading these posts I've really given up on the hope that people will some day understand what freedom of speech means.
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What do you value more? Equality or liberty?
Are you saying you value your own freedom (which is not under threat because gay marriage does not and will not hurt you) over someone else's? That you would prefer having your own rights rather than someone else having the same rights?

I don't want to repeat what I said not 10 minutes ago, but here goes in case you are blind:

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What do you value more? Equality or liberty?
You understand that this is a ridiculous question, don't you?
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Does that sound more libertarian or more utopian?

More concerned for the rights of the individual or the "progress" of the collective?
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Does that sound more libertarian or more utopian?

More concerned for the rights of the individual or the "progress" of the collective?
You'll do anything to make sense out of something that doesn't make sense, wouldn't you? It's becoming laughable.

How would the legalization of same sex marriage in all 50 states affect you? Come on, give all of FYM one good reason! I don't think you ever really have.
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Not in S.F., Boston or Chicago pastor... you don't share their "values."
This Pastor not only has unchristian values, but he's also not very bright. He was on the Laura Ingram show yesterday to talk about this very same thing, and she lobbed him what she thought was going to be a softball question; "what do you say to those that compare this to the fight for interracial marriage?" He stumbled, avoided the question and then placed his foot in his mouth. They both proved the hypocrisy of their views on live radio.

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What do you value more? Equality or liberty?
You like the word 'liberty', but after years of your posts we've all seen that you really don't understand what it means.
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What do you value more? Equality or liberty?
How do you define liberty? I think we all think we mean the same thing when we use a word and much of the time we don't.

More and more, I'm starting to see it as an abstract, meaningless term.

Or maybe a term that allows somebody to be a dick without any understanding/expectation of repercussions.

There won't ever be true equality. A little bit more fairness wouldn't hurt.
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How would the legalization of same sex marriage in all 50 states affect you? Come on, give all of FYM one good reason! I don't think you ever really have.
I think we're still waiting on this. We're still waiting on his "reasoned opinions" and how did he put it, "repercussions"...
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Because he cannot give one reason that isn't a personal feeling or belief, and therefore doesn't actually mean anything to anyone else but him.

This is a basic right that is denied to a portion of our population. They are not getting more rights, or more privledges than anyone else, they are asking to be treated equal.

Because your faith disagree's with same sex marriage doesn't mean your beliefs should be imposed on others. It's plain and simple as that. You don't want Sharia Law imposed on you, and you don't want your ability to express your faith removed completely.

The feelings of a majority isn't a right to rule on the minority. Let them get married, go on with your life, and see if anything changes (nothing will change, and if anything does, it's not related to gay marriage).
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Smith was pretty harsh. People need to work, they need to pay their bills and finding work is not easy. For all he knew, that girl could've been a gay rights supporter or actually a lesbian herself. He should've directed his rage toward the Chick-Fil-A CEO rather than someone in need of a paycheck.
exactly. i've always been a supporter of gay rights (thanks mom) and i only worked there because they were the only place in town that hired at 14. not everyone can afford to quit their job just because they find out their ceo doesn't feel the same about an issue as them.

on a positive note though, someone on my friends list who i was afraid would be supportive of the ceo (if she mentioned it at all, she's not very political) actually posted an article about the same sex kiss day event there and said how awesome it was. so yay.
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