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Old 09-07-2012, 05:08 PM   #381
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So I take it there's no other pressing issues in Maryland to be addressed then, right, if this Burns guy had the time to write a letter to a football player about some comments he made?

In short, Burns is a dumbass, and Ayanbadejo is a cool, smart guy. The fact that he's getting support for his stance is equally pleasing.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:40 PM   #382
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He wrote a letter to the franchise owner telling him his players shouldn't be talking politics.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:53 PM   #383
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Yeah, that, thanks. Meant to say that, but messed up somehow .

General point still stands.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:01 PM   #384
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Loved Chris Kluwe's response to that.
I'm on my phone, so somebody should post it here. I read Kluwe's response and it was the first time I cheered on a punter. :slowclap:
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:47 AM   #385
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Never mind. Here it is in all its glory:

"They Won't Magically Turn You Into A Lustful Cockmonster": Chris Kluwe Explains Gay Marriage To The Politician Who Is Offended By An NFL Player Supporting It
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That is an awesome letter. Really negates the stereotype that some people have of professional athletes. Makes me proud that there are people like him in the NFL (and other sports), makes up for the "bad" ones.

He posted a cleaner version of the letter on his blog, and this is what he said about it. He sure has a way with words.


First off, let me say thank you to all the people that commented on my letter to Emmett C. Burns Jr. You all give me great hope for the human race; that one day we can rise up past the petty differences that divide us and realize we’re all in this together. Perhaps our children won’t look back on our stewardship with regret.

Secondly, I heard from quite a few sources (including my dad) that the letter would have been more powerful and delivered the message better without the swearing. That those who would refute the point could seize upon my colorful insults to dismiss the main thrust as little more than childish antics and egotistical displays of temper.

Bollocks.

The swearing is there for a reason. What Emmett C. Burns Jr. wrote, what I responded to, was far more disgusting and foul minded than any simple scatological reference or genital mashup. His words degrade the very essence of the English language with their barely hidden venom and intolerant hate; drag it screaming into the muck of iniquity by wrapping a mantle of seeming reasonableness around corruption and control; masquerade as discourse while screaming their very lie to any Heaven you care to name – I could go on.

My words? My words are a litmus test for those that would see the truth of a message rather than the package it’s delivered in. I won’t lie, it’s also because I personally find them entertaining to write and read (as do a large amount of other people), but those who would argue that my message means nothing simply because I’m referencing a portion of the male anatomy would never have accepted it anyway. They would have used other excuses, excuses like “Oh he’s just a punter”, or “What do you know, you just play football”, or “No one cares what you think you fag”.

No, my words are meant for those that might be on the fence, those that are initially drawn in due to shock, or laughter, or outrage, but then look at what lies beneath, the truth of the matter. Them I might reach, might offer a quick lightbulb flicker of “Ohhh, so that’s what’s wrong with that argument”. But those who don’t look, who don’t question, who happily treat the symptoms and not the disease – isn’t that the very problem with our politics today? No one is interested in what lies hidden in plain sight beneath what’s said; the glossy dung ball of intolerance and hate buffed to a lustrous gleam by rhetoric and catchphrases.
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Lustful Cockmonster. That is amazing.

As a Green Bay Packers fan, I am contractually required to hate the Vikings at all time .... but that is fricking awesome.
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Lustful Cockmonster. That is amazing.
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Ha!
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“I have no experience with incest. We started thinking about that. We had heard a few stories where brothers and sisters were completely, absolutely in love with one another. You know what? This whole movie is about judgment, and lack of it, and doing what you want.
Who gives a shit if people judge you? I’m not saying this is an absolute but in a way, if you’re not having kids – who gives a damn? Love who you want. Isn’t that what we say? Gay marriage – love who you want? If it’s your brother or sister it’s super-weird, but if you look at it, you’re not hurting anybody except every single person who freaks out because you’re in love with one another.”
Nick Cassavetes Says Incest Isn't A Big Deal, Compares It To Gay Marriage & Asks 'Who Gives A Damn?'

This director may be looking to create controversy just to bring attention to his movie, but I am still appalled by his comments. Anyone who brings up bestiality, incest and what-have-you in regards to the SSM argument is ruining the argument for the issue, no matter how slight. And for anyone to suggest consensual incest is OK or those who commit bestiality are like anyone else are completely out of their minds. I can go on forever complaining about those people.
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He should not be bringing up gay marriage as having any relation with incest.
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This director may be looking to create controversy just to bring attention to his movie, but I am still appalled by his comments. Anyone who brings up bestiality, incest and what-have-you in regards to the SSM argument is ruining the argument for the issue, no matter how slight. And for anyone to suggest consensual incest is OK or those who commit bestiality are like anyone else are completely out of their minds. I can go on forever complaining about those people.
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'If it’s your brother or sister it's super-weird, but if you look at it, you're not hurting anybody except every single person who freaks out because you're in love with one another."
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Let me ask you what more than a dozen people have asked me in this thread: How does two people loving each other hurt you?
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Why is incest illegal?
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He should not be bringing up gay marriage as having any relation with incest.
Why? Can't two brothers or two sisters fall in love just as easily as a brother and a sister?
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Hate and bigotry.
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How long ago was it that gay marriage was illegal?
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are you comparing being gay to committing incest?

why can i marry my first female cousin in many states but not my first male cousin?
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try again, Mr. Facile Comparisons.
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Let me ask you what more than a dozen people have asked me in this thread: How does two people loving each other hurt you?
Funny, Indy. Funny

You seem to lack empathy or any basic scientific understanding. You continually post not only anti-SSM comments, but also anti-gay comments, knowing full well we have Irvine here who is openly gay. I'm sure you are aware that there are plenty of other gay Interferencers who lurk in FYM and see your bigoted comments.

And yet you don't care. You go on hurting people.

Shame on you. Really!
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Because of genetic reasons. It's all a matter of survival of the fittest, and if we start allowing brothers and sisters to mate and reproduce, the offspring is far more likely to have genetic defects or diseases. Which they, in turn, will pass on to their offspring, and thus you create a weak population that will eventually die out.


Yea, it ain't romantic. I know. But that's basically it I guess. Don't get me wrong, if two people truly love each other, I'm not the person to tell them they can't. But in order for humans to stay strong, it's better they don't have babies.
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