Same-Sex Marriage General Discussion Thread - Page 46 - U2 Feedback

Go Back   U2 Feedback > Lypton Village > Free Your Mind > Free Your Mind Archive
Click Here to Login
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 07-26-2012, 07:32 PM   #901
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Philadelphia
Posts: 19,218
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the iron horse View Post
As a Christian I believe the Bible teaches that marriage is between a man and a woman.

That said. I daily use products and services from companies that openly promote the homosexual agenda.

I'm not out trying to boycott them.

I don't understand the intolerance that many on the left seem to exhibit.

It is scary that this society seems so ready to censor or punish people that
disgaree with what they consider correct thought.
What is a homosexual agenda and who promotes it?
__________________

PhilsFan is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 07:33 PM   #902
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Some conservatives choose not to give their money to businesses who take stances they disagree with. Some liberals do the same. Big whoop. That's not censorship or intolerance, that's spending your money where you choose to spend your money, based on reasons that you don't have to defend to anyone.

I have to agree with the reservations about what Boston is doing re Tasty Chicken Lived a Sad Life*, though.



*close enough, yeah?
__________________

corianderstem is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 07:55 PM   #903
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 20,715
Local Time: 02:12 PM
Nice posts, Cori. I thought your thoughts came through just fine .

Anywho, good on Target with their wedding registry ad . That's cool.
Moonlit_Angel is online now  
Old 07-26-2012, 08:11 PM   #904
45:33
 
cobl04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: East Point to Shaolin
Posts: 58,208
Local Time: 06:12 AM
Rugby Union player.

Wallaby boycotts marriage until gays have same right

cobl04 is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 08:22 PM   #905
Forum Moderator
 
yolland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,471
Local Time: 08:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the iron horse View Post
I'm not out trying to boycott them.
You may not be, but plenty of antigay and/or anti-SSM Americans are. Just for starters, visit the American Family Association's homepage for a rundown of their current actions against JC Penney, Office Depot, Target, Sears, and Home Depot. (And their planned "Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day" on August 1.)

Actual intervention by a city government to prevent the local spread of a chain does admittedly raise some other issues, and might or might not be opening a can of worms in a way these politicians didn't foresee or intend.
__________________
yolland [at] interference.com


μελετώ αποτυγχάνειν. -- Διογένης της Σινώπης
yolland is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 08:39 PM   #906
Blue Crack Addict
 
anitram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 18,918
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the iron horse View Post

It is scary that this society seems so ready to censor or punish people that
disgaree with what they consider correct thought.
Are you a libertarian or not?

Should my hard-earned money not be mine to spend however I see fit?
anitram is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 09:26 PM   #907
Blue Crack Addict
 
Moonlit_Angel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo...
Posts: 20,715
Local Time: 02:12 PM
I just love that the left is being called "intolerant" for daring to suggest supporting anti-gay attitudes is a bad idea.

Once again, anti-gay rights people: You are entitled to your views. And we are entitled to not agree with those views and claim them to be wrong if we so wish. Being free to have a viewpoint/opinion does NOT mean you are also automatically free from criticism of said viewpoint/opinion.

Also, "do unto others", "eye for an eye", and all that. You want to show intolerance towards gay people, don't be surprised, then, when you get that same intolerance in return.
Moonlit_Angel is online now  
Old 07-26-2012, 09:42 PM   #908
ONE
love, blood, life
 
digitize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York / Dallas / Austin
Posts: 14,076
Local Time: 01:12 PM
To me, there's an absolutely enormous difference between people boycotting CFA over this and cities (not only Boston, but now Chicago and Philadelphia) taking any sort of official action against CFA. I'm not actually generally a fan of boycotts myself (although it's irrelevant for me, because I won't eat at CFA for other reasons), but there's nothing really fundamentally wrong with other people doing it. It's just a way of exercising freedom of speech, and CFA isn't being oppressed if the left uses their stance on gay marriage as a reason to boycott them. Neither is Target being oppressed if the right does something similar.

I really have problems with government actions against CFA, and I don't see how they'd hold any water in any federal court. It's a pretty blatant attack on the right to free speech of the owners of CFA. I find their opinions pretty disgusting myself, but come on.
digitize is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 09:43 PM   #909
Rock n' Roll Doggie
VIP PASS
 
Pearl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 5,741
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel View Post

Also, "do unto others", "eye for an eye", and all that. You want to show intolerance towards gay people, don't be surprised, then, when you get that same intolerance in return.
Exactly. Well said.

I saw a Facebook meme not too long ago (odd source, I know) that showed a pic of an Orthodox Jew and explained that while pork is against his religion, he does not go around trying to ban it altogether from the public sphere. That says a lot about how religious people should balance their beliefs with the rest of the world.
Pearl is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 10:42 PM   #910
Blue Crack Supplier
 
Irvine511's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 33,392
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilsFan
What is a homosexual agenda and who promotes it?

When he tells you, please let a homosexual like myself know what it is.

It's interesting to be yourself, your existence, an object of disagreement.
Irvine511 is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 11:15 PM   #911
Paper Gods
Forum Administrator
 
KhanadaRhodes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: a vampire in the limousine
Posts: 60,684
Local Time: 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel View Post
I just love that the left is being called "intolerant" for daring to suggest supporting anti-gay attitudes is a bad idea.
yep. yet it's perfectly cool for all these other organisations to boycott groups like jcpenney and encourage going to chick-fil-a as much as possible. it's a bit hypocritical.
__________________
KhanadaRhodes is offline  
Old 07-26-2012, 11:42 PM   #912
Rock n' Roll Doggie
FOB
 
trojanchick99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Los Feliz, CA (between Hollywood and Downtown LA)
Posts: 8,352
Local Time: 12:12 PM
I'm not one to boycott stores where the ownership has views I disagree with, but in this case I make an exception. I just can't go there anymore. That said, I have an issue with governments blocking them from opening stores. Let the consumers make a statement with their wallets.

Also, the owner of the Hollywood store released a statement saying all franchises are independently owned and they don't necessarily agree with the views of their founder.
trojanchick99 is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 06:07 AM   #913
BVS
Blue Crack Supplier
 
BVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: between my head and heart
Posts: 41,232
Local Time: 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the iron horse View Post
I don't understand the intolerance that many on the left seem to exhibit.
And do you understand the intolerance of the right, or do you just choose to ignore it?
Quote:
Originally Posted by the iron horse View Post
It is scary that this society seems so ready to censor or punish people that
disgaree with what they consider correct thought.
I've always heard the right say that this is part of capitalism. Do you no longer believe in capitalism and freedom of speech when it's against an intolerance you believe in?
BVS is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 06:22 AM   #914
Paper Gods
Forum Administrator
 
KhanadaRhodes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: a vampire in the limousine
Posts: 60,684
Local Time: 02:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by trojanchick99 View Post
Also, the owner of the Hollywood store released a statement saying all franchises are independently owned and they don't necessarily agree with the views of their founder.
that's a good point. though some of what each franchise earns will find its way back to the cathys. too bad i can't go to a franchise that isn't bigoted and pay under the table.

there's a same sex kiss protest that's supposed to happen today at chick-fil-as and the owner of one in southaven, ms (a suburb of memphis) said he welcomes them. it kinda surprised me. granted it'd probably be bad pr to be like "stay away fags" but he could've just not gone on the local news (if he didn't approve i mean), it's not like it's the only cfa in town.
__________________
KhanadaRhodes is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 02:06 PM   #915
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 PM


Amazon's Founder Pledges $2.5 Million in Support of Same-Sex Marriage - NYTimes.com
corianderstem is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 02:50 PM   #916
Blue Crack Addict
 
anitram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: NY
Posts: 18,918
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Interesting to me that in WA state, gay marriage was passed through the legislature and signed off by the governor. Yet, the anti-gay marriage crowd raised up a stink and started a petition. Aren't we repeatedly told that the issue with gay marriage is that activist judges are forcing it upon citizens against their will? So if the elected legislators also can't do it, then who?
anitram is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 02:52 PM   #917
Blue Crack Distributor
 
corianderstem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Seattle
Posts: 64,498
Local Time: 12:12 PM
Ayup.

WA is totally gung-ho about voter initiatives, for better or for worse. Although even though Seattle voted down the plastic bag ban, the city went ahead and did it anyway.

There was a good article about how those initiatives are driven by massive funding from businesses, even if those businesses might be out of state. It's pretty messed up. I don't know if it's relevant to post here or not, so I won't dig for the link right now. It was either in The Stranger or Seattle Weekly.
corianderstem is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 04:01 PM   #918
Blue Crack Addict
 
PhilsFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Philadelphia
Posts: 19,218
Local Time: 03:12 PM
Shouldn't that Times headline include the word "Agenda"?
PhilsFan is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 04:15 PM   #919
Blue Crack Addict
 
MrsSpringsteen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 28,170
Local Time: 03:12 PM
The mayor of Boston has backed off of his CFA rant. He said yesterday that it's his job as mayor to give his opinion (to me he went way beyond that), and he admitted that he got carried away with another of his "Meninoisms". Obviously he knows he has no authority to stop CFA. Believe it or not many people here disagree with what the mayor said and don't support it.

If CFA discriminated against gay employees, or didn't hire them, or mistreated gay customers then yes, I'd have a problem with it. But I believe in the freedom of choice of consumers, and not in the govt making that choice for us. Like someone mentioned, CFA is a franchise and not everyone supports the CEO's position. And they shouldn't be punished for it either. I don't like what the head chicken guy said, and I wouldn't go there anyway, regardless of that-but I want to have the right to exercise that choice.

We all consume things everyday, and use services-and we have no idea what the political and moral beliefs of the people behind them are.

Oh well, at least Tim Thomas stands behind CFA. I heard they sent plenty of chicken to his bunker where he makes his hit and run Facebook posts from, and thanks God that he got out of crazy Beantown.
MrsSpringsteen is offline  
Old 07-27-2012, 04:56 PM   #920
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Band-aid
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: The American Resistance
Posts: 4,754
Local Time: 01:12 PM
I don't remember any of you "boycotting" Senator or President Obama when he held the same position.
__________________

INDY500 is offline  
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Design, images and all things inclusive copyright © Interference.com
×