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Old 05-31-2012, 03:34 PM   #681
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Oh, dear .

And yet we can never seem to figure out why some children grow up turning out to be nasty people.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:37 PM   #682
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what's more disturbing is how the crowd leaps to it's feet the moment the boy says the word "homo."
Of course, but at least the adults have made a choice (regardless of how poor, and all the other adjectives you can use, that choice is) and can make that choice. A four year old child can't.
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:30 PM   #683
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Old 06-03-2012, 06:12 PM   #684
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I watched the segment on youtube

Jason Alexander apologizes for calling cricket a 'gay sport' on 'The Late Late Show' | News Briefs | EW.com

I really think he hurt himself professionally, good that he apologized
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I just watched it... what a massive overreaction. People need to calm down.

Maybe if he'd said "only anal sex loving faggots play cricket", then sure. But I was only offended because I love cricket and think its better than baseball.
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I just watched it... what a massive overreaction. People need to calm down.

I watched it and we have reached different conclusions.

I am calm.
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Strangely enough, I wondered if he'd get any flak for that when I saw that episode.

Yeah, I'm with cobl, pretty sure he wasn't meaning it in an insulting way.
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I love cricket and think its better than baseball.


that's gay.
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Put yourself in a gay man's shoes and see if you would be offended by that comment. Please be more sensitive, irvine.
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I was thinking. Didn't legalizing biracial marriage require a redefinition of "personhood"? Weren't black Americans 3/5 of a person at one point?
Its silly for the left to make these jumps. The argument about marriage is an argument about the legal status of that ceremony. Nothing to do with not regarding gay people as people. I don't think even the most right wing of the Christian right regards gays as 3/5ths of people.
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The argument about marriage is an argument about the legal status of that ceremony. Nothing to do with not regarding gay people as people.
No. It's not about the legal status of THAT ceremony, it's the legal status thereafter that ceremony and how the state recognizes you.

If you are not recognized as an equal in the eyes of the law than you are not equal as a person. That seems pretty cut and dry to me.
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I was thinking. Didn't legalizing biracial marriage require a redefinition of "personhood"? Weren't black Americans 3/5 of a person at one point?
I hear this a lot. But blacks were not 3/5 of a person. I believe it was Virginia and North Carolina that would not go along with the Constitution because they wanted more representation in Congress and votes in the Electoral College for selecting the President.

I am sure that they would have been happy to have slaves counted as 5/5 or even 1.5 persons for apportionment purposes.
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I am sure that they would have been happy to have slaves counted as 5/5 or even 1.5 persons for apportionment purposes.
Yes, this is what they were pushing for. But of course, no one ever suggested that those slaves could vote. Heaven forbid that our saintly founding fathers allow for that.

Just one of many cases of the US government being designed in a way where some the votes of some people matter more than the votes of others. When it comes down to it, that's all that the electoral college does today.
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The argument about marriage is an argument about the legal status of that ceremony. Nothing to do with not regarding gay people as people.
Wrong.

It has to do with the plethora of rights that flow to each individual as a consequence of being legally married.
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Well, looks like the people of Washington state will get the amazing opportunity to vote on whether or not some people can get married.

The Dark Side got enough signatures to get it onto the ballot.
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